[IrishBeatDown]

Originally Posted by Lubaolong

Poor thing. Most chameleons suffer in captivity and are sick from stress related illnesses. You should make sure he is kept in as large of a cage as possible. Also, chameleons shouldn't be handled unless necessary. It causes them too much stress. They don't make good pets. For the most part, you shouldn't ever touch them. Chameleons should just sit in their cage and be looked at.

I had one a few years ago, but it died from a "failure to acclimate." That seems to be the fate of a lot of chameleons. They just don't do well in captivity. I would never buy one again. It's not fair to them. If you want a lizard, I hear iguanas are more people friendly.

no no no no no... please do not get an iguana... yes they are people friendly but the industry is aweful and they get too big for most pet owners to handle...

instead consider a cornsnake or king snake... or if your set on a lizard bearded dragons are great... crested gecko's are pretty badass too.

i myself own a 3 yr old california kingsnake

a 1yr old red tail boa

and a baby red eared slider turtle

[Lubaolong]

Originally Posted by hypocalking

Veileds do great in captivity and are very hardy. What kind of Chameleon did you have? Most likely the one you had purchased was wild caught.

I had both a veiled like this one and a Jackson. I also had another species when I was younger, and I've been looking for images online, but I can't find it.

What you said might be true about veiled chameleons that are bred in captivity, but I'm not sure if that's the case with most pet stores. Maybe they are bred like that in some places, but I'm pretty sure the ones I had were wild.

[Lubaolong]

Originally Posted by IrishBeatDown

yes they are people friendly but the industry is aweful and they get too big for most pet owners to handle...

instead consider a cornsnake or king snake... or if your set on a lizard bearded dragons are great...

Yeah, I heard bearded dragons are friendly, too.

I used to keep a rat snake when I was probably in 4th grade. I used to feed it mice and baby chickens.

[IrishBeatDown]

Originally Posted by Lubaolong

Yeah, I heard bearded dragons are friendly, too.

I used to keep a rat snake when I was probably in 4th grade. I used to feed it mice and baby chickens.

beardies are soooo awesome... total chick magnets too... its the weirdest thing... you walk into a blockbuster witha bearded dragon on your shoulder... he's black bearding (showing dominance over his bitches) and bobbing his head up and down... the girls come running to see it.

[hypocalking]

Originally Posted by IrishBeatDown

beardies are soooo awesome... total chick magnets too... its the weirdest thing... you walk into a blockbuster witha bearded dragon on your shoulder... he's black bearding (showing dominance over his bitches) and bobbing his head up and down... the girls come running to see it.

LOL!!!!!

[hypocalking]

Originally Posted by Lubaolong

I had both a veiled like this one and a Jackson. I also had another species when I was younger, and I've been looking for images online, but I can't find it.

What you said might be true about veiled chameleons that are bred in captivity, but I'm not sure if that's the case with most pet stores. Maybe they are bred like that in some places, but I'm pretty sure the ones I had were wild.

Ya the Jackson you had was most likely wild caught. Ya all the pet stores carry captive bred Veildeds. They are not exported.

[hypocalking]

Originally Posted by IrishBeatDown

no no no no no... please do not get an iguana... yes they are people friendly but the industry is aweful and they get too big for most pet owners to handle...

instead consider a cornsnake or king snake... or if your set on a lizard bearded dragons are great... crested gecko's are pretty badass too.

i myself own a 3 yr old california kingsnake

a 1yr old red tail boa

and a baby red eared slider turtle

Bearded Dragons rule. Have you seen the Translucent morph?
They have solid black eyes and their skin looks traslucent..


Also the scaleless...... They're called silkbacks, a guy in Italy was the first to produce these...

[IrishBeatDown]

Originally Posted by hypocalking

Bearded Dragons rule. Have you seen the Translucent morph?
They have solid black eyes and their skin looks traslucent..


Also the scaleless...... They're called silkbacks, a guy in Italy was the first to produce these...

holy shit! yeah i have seen the translucent morphs, i have a breeder friend a few miles away who paid a small fortune for a breeding pair. i hadn't seen the scaleless morph! that is wild!

[hypocalking]

Originally Posted by IrishBeatDown

holy shit! yeah i have seen the translucent morphs, i have a breeder friend a few miles away who paid a small fortune for a breeding pair. i hadn't seen the scaleless morph! that is wild!

Cool. Yeah I bred them myself. They're cool lizards. They have the most personality out of all the reptiles. They're almost like a dog in some respects.

[IrishBeatDown]

Originally Posted by hypocalking

Cool. Yeah I bred them myself. They're cool lizards. They have the most personality out of all the reptiles. They're almost like a dog in some respects.

haha. you are referring to the cute head tilt and look up at you like "WTF? where my crickets at?"