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Old 05-14-2007, 06:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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ATTN Brazilvr or Any Casino lovers?

Any Casino lovers?

Brazillvr you worked at a Casino right?

Just some quick questions

How can they ban people who count cards in Black Jack, it is a skill ffs?

Can a person be good at Roulette? If you play mathematically correct how big of an underdog are you?

What other games should you know how to play before going to a casino to have a good time?
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Old 05-14-2007, 07:06 AM   #2 (permalink)
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You should play craps.

Craps only has relatively small house edge, 5-10 percent I think.

Some bets even have no house edge.
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Old 05-14-2007, 07:18 AM   #3 (permalink)

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They cannot prove if you are counting cards, only suspicion of it. So, if they suspect you of doing it, they can kick you out since it's their property and you are trespassing if they dont want you there.

Blackjack has the best odds for the player, not roulette. I'm not sure but I think if you play correct basic strategy the house edge is only 1.5%. Or, you can play poker. In poker, you dont play the house, you play other players, but the house does take their cut of the pot (rake).

I once won $1000 playing online roulette by playing only red or black and doubling my bet every time I lost, and once I won going back down to my original bet ($2). I quickly learned that one bad streak will wipe out all your winnings and that's why tables have maximum bets, otherwise this system would be unbeatable.
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Old 05-14-2007, 07:23 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Yeah I already play oker jsut wanted to play James BombIf I make a roadtrip to one of the three casinos in Sweden

I kinda use your system when playing Black Jack

I am to lazy to google how does craps work?
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Old 05-14-2007, 08:01 AM   #5 (permalink)
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if they suspect you of counting cards then they can kick you out...no questions asked.

in sweden how many zero's are on the roulette table. in canada we have 0 and 00 which puts your odds down to around 40% if you are betting red or black.

the best game to play to have a good time and not spend a lot of money is Pai Gow. its esentially poker with 7 cards. you have to make a two card hand and a 5 card hand and try to beat the dealer on both. if you tie than its a push, which happens quite a bit. you can play 100 bucks for about 3 hours if you wanted to.
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Old 05-14-2007, 08:18 AM   #6 (permalink)
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i would stay away from pai gow, personally...poker is the #1 choice, bc there are tons of idiots. then would be blackjack, then craps, then roulette.

tbh, theres no mathematically correct way to play roulette. every time you spin the wheel it has the exact same odds as the last time. even if it just hit black 8 times in a row, the odds of hitting black again are exactly the same as last time.
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Yeah I already play oker jsut wanted to play James BombIf I make a roadtrip to one of the three casinos in Sweden

I kinda use your system when playing Black Jack

I am to lazy to google how does craps work?
Craps is actually easy to play. Your best bet is to go to the tables during the day when its not as busy and ask the dealer for a quick lesson. Or just watch a game until you get the jist.
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Or, you can play poker. In poker, you dont play the house, you play other players, but the house does take their cut of the pot (rake).
The one problem with playing poker at a casino especially if you are playing the lower stakes is that you may have a lot of people with extra money who play really loose. Losing $100-$400 isn't a real big deal to them so you're going to have a lot of players who will call or raise with almost anything. It's easier to trap them, but a lot of times you'll miss the flop and it turns into you being nickeled to death thanks to the fact that if you don't hit anything on the flop you're going to have someone that always raises. If you keep on chasing hoping to catch something you'll probably end up losing a lot more money than you'll win.

If I were doing to play at a casino I would play either higher stakes $5-$10 or more or 7-card stud. It's a lot more mathematical and favors the players who have a good knowledge of the game. If you can deduce pot odds and other types of odds you can make a good profit at the tables.
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Old 05-14-2007, 10:08 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Yeah I already play oker jsut wanted to play James BombIf I make a roadtrip to one of the three casinos in Sweden

I kinda use your system when playing Black Jack

I am to lazy to google how does craps work?
If you want to win at craps, it requires you to place alot of bets on the table at a time. You need to have alot of money to play craps correctly and well.

Blackjack is your best bet and you can play for hours on relatively little money. The casino, like restaurants, have the right to refuse service to anyone. If you count cards, they believe you are warping the odds of the game, and if you have a team that counts cards to together you can really warp the odds of the game...see the MIT Blackjack team.

The main idea you need to have going to a casino is that you are going to lose and not dip into your pocket. Budget what you are willing to lose, and play with that money only.
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A lot of mis-information here

There is a lot of mis-information here. I hope I can be of help. I have been in the business for 13 years now starting on the midwest riverboats at 18 and currently working in Nevada now.
Winning at poker means you have to be better than most people at the table and that much better in order to cover the rake.
Blackjack you have a good chance if you stay disapplined. The actual house percentage varies greatly depending on the number of decks, house rules in regards splits,double downs and skill of the players choices in situations. The casino I work in has single deck blackjack, paying 3 to 2 for naturals, doubling down on 10 or higher,splits allowed 3 times into 4 hands-no doubles after a split.
Roulette has a house advantage of 5.26% ( i think) 18 red,18 black numbers 2 green(in US casinos). Good game to not have to think on as there are no bets that are worse than others except the top5 number basket bet. Zone out and play some of your favorite numbers, and hope to get lucky.
Craps is my specialty. Basically the simpiler the bets the best they are. Play the Pass line...get some odds behind it...Come bets and odds are equally as good too. House edge is less than 3%. The reverse of these bets(the DONT'S) are equally good too but not very popular as you have to lay more money to win less as you will be the favorite. The next good bets are place bets where you go directly on the number and everytime that number hits you get paid. Seven rolls you lose. The more difficult the number is to roll the more it pays. The majority of your bets should be in these bets that I have explained. The prop bets in the center should be avoided as they are longshots and high house pc. Put a chip next to your bet on the pass line and say "for the boys" and they dealers wiil have your attention and will help you in anyway they can.
Circus games in general have a higher house pc than the traditional games...let it ride...carribean stud... pai gow is a boring grind.
I just breezed over everything and I know I was vague. If you have specific questions feel free to ask me. Remember House Percentage applies to the long run and anything can happen in the short run. Thats why people go right? To hope to buck the odds so to speak. The most important thing is to remember to keep it fun. If you are sweating the money walk away and find something else to do. P.S. Tip your dealers people
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