[RobT]

Originally Posted by ShaolinSubz

Ca't argue with this Rob-T. But some of the newer footage has no miltary explanation for its behavior.Check out the lecture vid I posted concerning the Mexican sightings. Inside that lecture is footage of a long UFO pumping out many smaller UFOs. Its not a one off either, many sightings have exhibiteed this kind of behavior. Of course I don't claim to know for sure it is not a possible military UFO but I find it highly unlikely

Yeah, but if people are spotting currently in development military aircraft, the US Airforce is hardly going to say "Yep, you've seen it. That's the new USS NCC 1701 model starship that we're building. Please don't tell the commies!" are they? ;)

[ShaolinSubz]

Originally Posted by RobT

Yeah, but if people are spotting currently in development military aircraft, the US Airforce is hardly going to say "Yep, you've seen it. That's the new USS NCC 1701 model starship that we're building. Please don't tell the commies!" are they? ;)

No they are not. But you are missing the obvious. For some of the UFOs to conduct their documented arobatics it would require engines and materials far superior to what main stream science is capable of. I have no doubt that much of the UFO phenomina is exactly that, and some of it quite possibly arrived at through purely terrestrial sources, but some of the other stuff that can only be explained through theoretical physics??...

[ThEdUdE25]

I didn't even know Mexico had an air-force.

[ElGuapo001]

Thanks for the vidz Shaolin, this stuff is great and very interesting do you have any websites you can reccomend

[ShaolinSubz]

Originally Posted by ElGuapo001

Thanks for the vidz Shaolin, this stuff is great and very interesting do you have any websites you can reccomend

Glad you enjoyed the vids. To be honest, the best thing to do is to search for lectures on either youtube or google video on the subject, find the names of lectures and guest speakers you are interested and then google thier names etc. A great place to start is the disclosure projects website as it is the most open, and attempts to distance itself from way out conspiracy theories.

I posted a few links within the thread but if you are interested in getting some specific names or videos then PM me and I will see what I can do


here are some declassified NSA docs, I have not checked them out myself but thought they might be quite interesting:
http://www.nsa.gov/ufo/

[MMA Hermit]

Originally Posted by RobT

I can't watch the videos as I'm in work. I have watched LOADS of stuff on UFOs etc though, I used to be totally convinced by it.

So what evidence has convinced you that all of the evidence for UFO contact going back to the dawn of civilization is not valid?

I hope your not one of those ridiculas people whom scramble to come up with alternatives when faced with ancient drawings.

The more I investigate the issue the more I become convinced that there are fewer reasons to not believe in an ET presence the otherwise. There are too many consistencies in the ancient evidence from different parts of the world that couldn't have possibly had copntact. at least not enough to make a social impact on eachother in the least bit. I find the bible to one of the most reveiling in this depatment along with literature the predates it sometimes by thousands of years.

[RobT]

Does the evidence really point to UFOs/aliens? How can you tell what the drawings etc are of?

It's nice to believe stuff like this, and it's easy to see what you want to see. None of the top archaelogists believe in this stuff, and they have studied things far more than I. If there really was a huge consistency of opinion on these things between varying civilisations, I think it would be a respected academic idea. It isn't though.

[ShaolinSubz]

Rob-T - The thing is, if you watch the testimony you will realise that objects have been caught on video and more importantly documented on radar performing aeronaughtics that far exceed what is possible for the science of the time (Yes there have been scientific advances over the last couple of decade that make it possible to consider military aircraft in some cases, but objects performing right angle turns at Mach speeds during the 50s documented on radar??? - And you must be aware of the many strange objects caught on military and nasa footage recently). These (at least to begin with) were not military aircraft.

[Feb 2007]

ttt

[FarCry]

I do believe there is undoubtedly other "life forms" not from our planet, but the details are still up in the air of course.