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02-15-2007, 04:11 AM
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yeah but nurture can overcome most if not all genetic traits
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02-15-2007, 05:41 AM
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Everything is genetic. Enviroment is because of genetics. Even if enviroment influences it then it is still genetic. Every happening is predestined is it not?
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02-15-2007, 05:42 AM
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Answering the thread, part nature, part nurture, like many people already stated ...
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Dont just do something, sit there !
Only now is alive and nothing else.
How and why myth influence matter ?
Is reality digital or continuous ?
A dead brain is not a mind but still is a brain.
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02-15-2007, 07:29 AM
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IM KIND OF A BIG DEAL
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Oh no, not everything is genetics, there are natural accidents ...
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Not if you believe in physics and quantum mechanics. World happenings are based off of probabilities at the quantum level. That would pretty much prove free will ultimately doesn't exist. __________________
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02-15-2007, 07:49 AM
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Not if you believe in physics and quantum mechanics. World happenings are based off of probabilities at the quantum level. That would pretty much prove free will ultimately doesn't exist.
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Somehow I knew this thread would eventually lead to this topic. While the rational side of me cannot dispute the validity of predeterminism, I find it far more comforting to believe in free will. |
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02-15-2007, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Lubaolong
Not if you believe in physics and quantum mechanics. World happenings are based off of probabilities at the quantum level. That would pretty much prove free will ultimately doesn't exist.
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Quantum mechanics is not deterministic and somehow sugest free will to exist. since at some experiences we can not really separete the object from the subject ...
Relativity and String theories are the deterministic side of physics ... __________________
Dont just do something, sit there !
Only now is alive and nothing else.
How and why myth influence matter ?
Is reality digital or continuous ?
A dead brain is not a mind but still is a brain.
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02-15-2007, 08:07 AM
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Has anyone picked up the last month's issue of Scientific American Mind? There was a good article dealing with this. To poorly summarize, aggression may also come from "abnormalities"in the brain. An article this month illustrated that the fighting styles of males and females is also genetic. In female fruitflies, they fight with headbutts and shoves, whereas the males prefer boxing and lunges. They isolated the gene that caused this behavior. They then switched the gene around between genders, and found that the fighting styles changed with it. Interesting stuff.
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02-15-2007, 08:30 AM
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IM KIND OF A BIG DEAL
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Originally Posted by Jay Pan ROKK
Quantum mechanics is not deterministic and somehow sugest free will to exist.
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How would randomness suggest free will????? If your actions are governed by quantum randomness, you have no control and free will doesn't exist. __________________
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02-15-2007, 08:49 AM
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How would randomness suggest free will????? If your actions are governed by quantum randomness, you have no control and free will doesn't exist.
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Randomness may come from free will ... __________________
Dont just do something, sit there !
Only now is alive and nothing else.
How and why myth influence matter ?
Is reality digital or continuous ?
A dead brain is not a mind but still is a brain.
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02-15-2007, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Sinful Messiah
Why do you think so?
Our mind is not separate from our physical brain. Our brain is made up of components that are just as easily inherited as the rest of our physical body.
I'm sure some behaviors can be nurtured to change but the underlying impulses won't go away unless they are physically manipulated.
We all have different capacities for happiness, depression, aggression, and even intelligence. I think the best approach is to discover what your own capacities are and nurture them from there.
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I think you should read the new neuroscience studies. The dogma was that your brain is static from the day you were born. But scientists have found that experiences can cause the the brain to change. Here is the link to the article that i have posted regarding this matter:
Behavior and emotions can be changed |
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