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Old 11-05-2006, 08:51 AM   #1 (permalink)

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Misaki winning? Look back at FC 2004.

It just doesn't make sense to let a fighter, who was armbarred in the semis a shot at the finals.

If some sort of freak injury occurs, this is the finals of the tournament we're talking about, they should've just done what they did at Final Conflict 2004.



I mean, imagine if they did back then what they pulled off tonight.




Nogueira and Fedor headbutt, opens up a cut on Fedor.


so Fedor gets out. Now Naoya Ogawa gets a shot against Nogueira for the GP title.


think about it.
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Old 11-05-2006, 08:52 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Fedor was cut in the actual final match against Nog.

How is this a relevent example in any shape or form?
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Fedor was cut in the actual final match against Nog.

How is this a relevent example in any shape or form?

in both events you had an exsistential circumstance preventing the execution of the final match. One was a cut (yes during the match) and one was a post fight injury.


my point is simply it would've been more logical to do what they did in 2004. Agree?
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Old 11-05-2006, 08:58 AM   #4 (permalink)
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The final match was executed in 2004, as it had already begun.

If you're saying an injury in the final bout of two people who earned their places is the same as a guy getting tapped out, coming back into the finals via PRIDE's rules, and winning are close enough that they should be treated the same, I fear that you may be a BIG Kang fan.
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The final match was executed in 2004, as it had already begun.

If you're saying an injury in the final bout of two people who earned their places is the same as a guy getting tapped out, coming back into the finals via PRIDE's rules, and winning are close enough that they should be treated the same, I fear that you may be a BIG Kang fan.

no, i'll ask the question again.

do you agree that it would've been more logical for them to do what they did in 2004 and postpone the finals match untill both deserving fighters were healthy?


that's all i'm arguing.
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Old 11-05-2006, 09:02 AM   #6 (permalink)
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This has always been a part of PRIDE rules.

That is how GPs work.

Even if there was an alternate, Misaki still would have been fighting.

it would go

Misaki
Gono
alternate

This is how tournaments work.

Stop bitching.

The fans in attendence, those who ordered the ppv...everyone expected a final match that night.

Postponing the fight is one of the worst possible options.

A lot of people were really mad it happened in 2004.
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The question in my mind to that is, would Filho be ready for NYE? From what I understand regarding that knee, it was pretty bad. And also, not having a main event isn't something you want to pull on the fans either. What would you have replaced Filho/Kang with?

EDIT: Filho had the knee problem, Kang had the shoulder, my bad.
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Old 11-05-2006, 09:04 AM   #8 (permalink)
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To answer your question, Shamrock, see this:

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This has always been a part of PRIDE rules.

That is how GPs work.

Even if there was an alternate, Misaki still would have been fighting.

it would go

Misaki
Gono
alternate

This is how tournaments work.

Stop bitching.
The final match had NOT started, so they had no need to postpone it. Nog and Fedor were fit enough to start the match in 2004, so it was on. If Fedor sustained the cut versus Ogawa, then Ogawa would have faced Nog.
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This has always been a part of PRIDE rules.

That is how GPs work.

Even if there was an alternate, Misaki still would have been fighting.

it would go

Misaki
Gono
alternate

This is how tournaments work.

Stop bitching.
THERE WAS an alternate match. Gegard Mousasi vs Hector Lombard.

so if misaki was injured then denis would've fought gono again for the title?

bleh.



tonight was so unfullfilling...

seeing a guy who had just been dominated win the tournament. I don't even think they should've given the belt out tonight after the circumstances.
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threadstarter is simply retarded.

So youre saying Nog shouldve fought Kharitonov, fedor, and Ogawa all in the same night?

stuuuupid
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