[blackthorne]

Originally Posted by iguardpass

Black Mamba should sign with the UFC

Why? The same thing that happened to him in the Kawajiri fight would happen to him in the UFC.

[TUF > U]

Originally Posted by Oeshon

Mamba is a tough fight, you cant blame Kawajiri for not looking good, not many do against Mamba

HAhaha no hes not, Kawajiri is just hugely overrated, he would get tooled inside the octagon.

[Klaretos]

Mamba is improving a lot his wrestling skills. A year ago Kawajiri would take him down at ease.

I believe it was a close boring fight and Mamba should have won. Kawajiri didn't do anythng besied controlling him on the floor. Mamba was striking from the bottom and he dominated the standup.

Kawajiri's bloody face tells the story. Mamba was as good as new when the fight ended.

[Perfume]

Originally Posted by Klaretos

Mamba is improving a lot his wrestling skills. A year ago Kawajiri would take him down at ease.

I believe it was a close boring fight and Mamba should have won. Kawajiri didn't do anythng besied controlling him on the floor. Mamba was striking from the bottom and he dominated the standup.

Kawajiri's bloody face tells the story. Mamba was as good as new when the fight ended.

Fucking lol.

[Mochan]

Originally Posted by HUSH

So yeah, Mamba was dominating the stand-up, but Crusher wasn't doing much on the ground when he passed Mamba's guard.

I think Mamba was robbed of a decision, and Crusher knew it. You could see it in his eyes.

Mamba should have won the decision IMO. In the UFC he might have lost due to judges there scoring points per round and regularly giving rounds to people who get the takedown and LNP on top, and granted in Pride we saw the same thing when Ishida fought Melendez.

But come on Mamba clearly did more damage to Kawajiri, stuffed most of his takedowns, landed strikes while standing AND on the ground on his back while Kawajiri was in sidemount, AND nullified all of Kawajiri's offense from the top.

It was not unlike when Maurice Smith won the decision over Coleman back in the early UFCs.


Here is a repost of what I said earlier after I watched the event:

Originally Posted by Mochan

Black Mamba vs. Kawajiri - this was a big surprise. Many people held Kawajiri to be one of the favorites in the tournament, a powerful wrestler who used his skills to inflict brutal ground and pound on his opponents. Mamba on the other hand is well-known for a great standup but a weak ground game. In this fight however, Gil truly brought the fight to Kawajiri. In a performance similar to the one Maurice Smith gave against Mark Coleman that earned him the unanimous decision and the UFC HW Belt, the Mamba upped his game with an impressive sprawl and an even more impressive, tight and deadly guard. For whilst Kawajiri did manage to nullify the Mamba’s standup for most of the fight and take the Canadian Indian fighter down multiple times, Kawajiri never managed to take advantage of his top position, whether in the guard or the multiple times that he passed to side mount and north south, and to back mount. Instead of going for ground and pound, he had to settle for sporadic submission attempts like a side choke and rear naked choke. All of which the Mamba deftly evaded.

In fact, Kultar totally nullified any offense Kawajiri had, and was even doing more damage from the bottom position with numerous small punches and even a well-timed knee to Kawajiri’s head while he was in sidemount. By the end of the fight Kultar Gill looked as fresh as when he started, whereas Kawajiri was noticeably tired, bloodied up and otherwise exhausted. So it came to me as a huge surprise when Dream’s judges gave the unanimous decision to Kawajiri. Judging from the look on his face, The Crusher knew that he didn’t won that fight, and even bowed deeply to his opponent and gave an apologetic consolation to the opposing corner. Whilst it was true that Kawajiri did manage to control the entire fight, Gill did more damage and nullfied every offensive move Kawajiri had to offer. In a way, he controlled the fight as well, except from the bottom position.

I can’t agree with the judge scoring, however the rules criteria do have aggression and ring control as primary criteria, so you could judge the fight in that manner. However, the rules also give weight to damage and Gill had the nod there. But in retrospect the judges would have given that to Kawajiri, as they have done in the past in the Melendez vs. Ishida fight under Yarrenoka (similar to this one, although Ishida too less damage than Kawajiri and was not as exhausted) or the Minowa Baroni fight (pretty similar to this one).

All in all we can say that the LW division needs to watch out, the Black Mamba is now a legitimate top contender and will terrorize this division from now onwards.

[Mochan]

Originally Posted by sinful sub

This is the first time I watched Black Mamba's fight and he was better than I expected...

I've been a fan of Gill for a long time now, even though I routinely see him loss against wrestlers. His standup and stance are very intriguing, and he's just freaking huge for his weightclass. I love his yoga thing.

But at Dream 1 he should that he can now hang with wrestlers. A little more training and in the next fight he should be able to turn the tables on most grapplers. I give kawajiri props for being able to mostly nullify him the entire match but Kawajiri was tired, exhausted and bloodied up by the end of the fight, Mamba didn't have a scratch on him and didn't even look winded.

I'm an even bigger fan now.

[Mochan]

Originally Posted by latino_power

HUSH are you iNDIAN ?/


Fact is MAMBA didnt do anything significant to gain the victory.

kawajiri was the aggressor.

Mamba struck Kawajiri with a huge knee while Kawajiri was in sidemount and bloodied him up.
He may have been reacting to Kawajiri's offense, but he was able to throw his own shots and he clearly did more damage than Kawajiri did. Give the fight another 5 minutes Kawajiri could have been KO'd.

[greenpower]

kawajiri was close to stopping the fight twice with chokes so he won. mamba was never close to stopping the fight.

[greenpower]

Originally Posted by Mochan

Mamba should have won the decision IMO. In the UFC he might have lost due to judges there scoring points per round and regularly giving rounds to people who get the takedown and LNP on top, and granted in Pride we saw the same thing when Ishida fought Melendez.

But come on Mamba clearly did more damage to Kawajiri, stuffed most of his takedowns, landed strikes while standing AND on the ground on his back while Kawajiri was in sidemount, AND nullified all of Kawajiri's offense from the top.

It was not unlike when Maurice Smith won the decision over Coleman back in the early UFCs.


Here is a repost of what I said earlier after I watched the event:

judging criteria in dream is the same as in pride. the most important thing is who came closest to finishing. mamba was never close to finishing. in ishida vs melendez, teh only time the fight was almost finished was ishida's straight armbar, so he got the nod.

[Jack Beanstock]

Originally Posted by greenpower

kawajiri was close to stopping the fight twice with chokes so he won. mamba was never close to stopping the fight.

Kawajiri wasn't close to finishing shit. Kawajiri = ZZZZzzzzzzz