The way Fedor punches and the way Bruce lee punches - Page 7

NinjaKilla187 · 04-18-2008, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaliree

"When you compete and take the win, or 1st place, you aren't the best fighter, you were just the better fighter that day. Tomorrow, you could fight that same guy and lose." .

This is exactly the point. And when you don't fight, not today, not yesterday and not ever, you not only ain't the better fighter, you ain't any kind of fighter.

I've read the article and it's all speculation. I can't argue with any of it. Chuck Norris and many other reputable sources claim that *if* Bruce Lee had competed he could have been a champion. The fact is he didn't compete so we will never know.

Why does Bruce Lee among all mortals get credit for stuff he never did? Maybe if I had taken up table tennis or tiddlywinks at a young age I would have been the greatest ever. Nobody goes around saying "NinjaKill187 is the greatest Ping Pong Master eva!!!!", based upon what I might have done if I had chosen to do so.

You either did or you didn't, there is no coulda, shoudla, woulda. Lee didn't and people have been making excuses for him ever since.

Strykerx · 04-18-2008, 01:05 AM

Interesting " styles make fights" hmm may have to look into that

In the end I think there are some people who no matter what you can not open their eyes. It will be an on going argument of Sigung Bruce skills and status. One thing is for sure is that he was definitely a great Martial Artist.

Strykerx · 04-18-2008, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by NinjaKilla187

This is exactly the point. And when you don't fight, not today, not yesterday and not ever, you not only ain't the better fighter, you ain't any kind of fighter.

I've read the article and it's all speculation. I can't argue with any of it. Chuck Norris and many other reputable sources claim that *if* Bruce Lee had competed he could have been a champion. The fact is he didn't compete so we will never know.

Why does Bruce Lee among all mortals get credit for stuff he never did? Maybe if I had taken up table tennis or tiddlywinks at a young age I would have been the greatest ever. Nobody goes around saying "NinjaKill187 is the greatest Ping Pong Master eva!!!!", based upon what I might have done if I had chosen to do so.

You either did or you didn't, there is no coulda, shoudla, woulda. Lee didn't and people have been making excuses for him ever since.

You may want to edit your post , you spell your screen name wrong when referring to yourself.

NinjaKilla187 · 04-18-2008, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Strykerx

You may want to edit your post , you spell your screen name wrong when referring to yourself.

Golly thanks, JKD guy. Have no facts with which to actually defend "Sigung Bruce" and are left to scrabble for a lowly missing "a" in my post, ay? Bummer man. Just think. If he'd actually won a few fights against verifiable and legitimate opponents you wouldn't have to stoop to this level.

Strykerx · 01:41 AM

Not trying to start things but this thread is getting quite off topic, you made some good points in your earlier post , it was a joke i thought you would get ( my comment). Its true he hasn't fought anyone well known or whatever you are correct however that doesn't write off what he did dude sparred with fighters, train like a fighter I don't know what you would classified that but its something.

I don't understand why you are so angry, do you think its disrespectful to compare fedor's punches to bruce?

Anyway.... In a lot of Fedor videos he does punch with a vertical fist , something him and bruce have in common.

Yojimbo. · 04-18-2008, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by NinjaKilla187

JKD is a steaming pile of unusable claptrap and only marginally better than the TMA is supposed to surpass.

What you and so many other people can't seem to comprehend is that Jeet Kune Do is a philosophy, not a style. It can be applied to whatever you do, in all areas of your life. It is not limited to fighting, be it for sport or self-defense. A "JKD school" might teach a lot of the same techniques, but the entire idea is for the INDIVIDUAL to be expanding their knowledge, constantly, and find what works best for them. Different people who understand what JKD truly is will most likely have different "styles" of fighting. I guess what I'm saying is that no two people's JKD will be exactly the same.

blanko · 04-18-2008, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by NinjaKilla187
JKD is a steaming pile of unusable claptrap and only marginally better than the TMA is supposed to surpass.

the guys from SBG seem to be doing well.

NinjaKilla187 · 04-18-2008, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by blanko

the guys from SBG seem to be doing well.

True, but I don't consider them to be JKD. The are primarly BJJ and MT focused just like a lot of other "MMA schools". They may be using some JKD philosphy, but they sure aren't fighting using the techniques described in "Tao of Jeet Kune Do".

NinjaKilla187 · 04-18-2008, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Yojimbo.

What you and so many other people can't seem to comprehend is that Jeet Kune Do is a philosophy, not a style. It can be applied to whatever you do, in all areas of your life. It is not limited to fighting, be it for sport or self-defense. A "JKD school" might teach a lot of the same techniques, but the entire idea is for the INDIVIDUAL to be expanding their knowledge, constantly, and find what works best for them. Different people who understand what JKD truly is will most likely have different "styles" of fighting. I guess what I'm saying is that no two people's JKD will be exactly the same.

*Sigh*

Okay, you had to go there. Meet me at noon behind the dojo and we will have a philosophy throwdown. I will start a new thread to get it going.

It really is a discussion worth having.

Fenrir · 04-18-2008, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ddran15

Well yea true but he did fight one guy that the chinese sent after him for teaching westerners martial arts.
Anyway back to Fedor. They teach systema to the spetsnaz and the kazakhstan fighters fight reletively the same way, its a more natural way of fighting. So I seriously think Fedor has some knowledge about it, for it is common in the east block. I have cousin that recently got back from a trip to the mother land and his brother in law (who is in the army) showed him the same technique. It's kind of like hitting with a hammer, with focus on causing severe organ damage. They also fight alot with knives and group fighting (which is common in russian streets)

Fedor never trained in systema. He trained in sambo. He thinks systema is a joke.