[Colinfirth]

If a proven surgeon said i recommend you go to this particular surgeon. He is the best. Isnt that proof that the surgeon being recommended is the best?

Ninja stop hating on Lee. Bruce Lee is respected because he earnt it. People are giving Lee the respect they think he deserves. Cant keep crying because of that. If you do, i will continue to show you the error of your ways.

[blanko]

If a proven surgeon said i recommend you go to this particular surgeon. He is the best. Isnt that proof that the surgeon being recommended is the best?

a proven surgeon would NEVER recommend a surgen that has never operated in his life. NEVER.

[NinjaKilla187]

Originally Posted by Colinfirth

mschatz, my analogies are far better than Ninja analogies you will find. He fears Bruce Lee. He keeps talking trash about Bruce because he is threatened and scared of Bruce Lee. His behaviour and actions towards Bruce speak volumes and louder than his empty words will ever do to us.

Ninja knows Bruce Lee was a great fighter. Thinks Bruce Lee was a great fighter.

Ninja is deeply scared and afeared that Colinfirth has been smoking his lunch and then visiting Sherdog.

[mschatz]

Originally Posted by blanko

a profen surgeon would NEVER recommend a surgen that has never operated in his life. NEVER.

good point.

[Colinfirth]

Originally Posted by NinjaKilla187

Did you make an analogy? If so please direct me to it as I must have missed it.

I lovvvvvvvvve Bruce Lee, who was an exciting action star and got millions of people all over the world interested in martial arts. Lee's somewhat cultish followers, who insist that he was some sort of baddass fighter absent any kind of evidence to support that, drive me crazy.

I think you will find that as your analogy was flawed and basically pants, ive modified your analogy in my favour and your analogy, which is now my analogy is far more stronger now. Yes Bruce Lee did get the world inspired to the martial arts, because everyone knew how good he was. Everyone wanted to be as good as Lee was. It takes someone as good as Bruce lee to inspire people.

Ninja you know Bruce Lee was a truly great fighter because everyone acknowledged that he was. You wont find people acknowedge Jackie Chan, Van Dame, or segal as great fighters because they werent. The jealous people of Lee who talk nonsense about the dead drive me crazy.

[HuMz]

Bruce lee = a great mind, movie star, bodybuilder
Bruce lee = not a fighter

Bruce lee vs Pacquiao = Pacquiao by death
Bruce lee vs Urijah Faber = Urijah Faber by death
Bruce lee vs Tyson = what?
Bruce lee vs Fedor = ok sure dim mak right?

The man was a pioneer in cross training, and encouraged his students to challenge Traditional Martial Arts orthodoxy and to reject what doesn't work. I've studied JKD and personally I don't think it works. Using the "philosophy of JKD" I've moved on to other styles that don't include any JKD.

But the "Legend of Bruce Lee" has become Traditional Martial Arts orthodoxy and people get very upset when you challenge it.

Yep, I believe the man himself whould be so angry if he saw what his art has become. I believe JKD nowadays would be basically Krav Maga or no rules MMA.

His art has basically turned into his worse fears: a Traditional Martial Arts. They are not rejecting what doesn't work anymore and think they got the perfect art created by Bruce lee and you can't change it, cause it's perfect.

[NinjaKilla187]

Originally Posted by Colinfirth

I think you will find that as your analogy was flawed and basically pants, ive modified your analogy in my favour and your analogy, which is now my analogy is far more stronger now. Yes Bruce Lee did get the world inspired to the martial arts, because everyone knew how good he was. Everyone wanted to be as good as Lee was. It takes someone as good as Bruce lee to inspire people.

Ninja you know Bruce Lee was a truly great fighter because everyone acknowledged that he was. You wont find people acknowedge Jackie Chan, Van Dame, or segal as great fighters because they werent. The jealous people of Lee who talk nonsense about the dead drive me crazy.

Oh NOW I get it. Your analogy is that in the same way your hero Lee ran around in circles snapping off ineffectual backfists and making scary faces on movies and TV but never actually fighting anyone, you've decided on a course of scampering around the forums blathering yourself in circles while landing no hard shots against anyone.

You must be Wing Chun stylist. That "your analogy is now my analogy and my analogy is no stronger" nonsense is your forum version of the chain punch, no? Endless, annoying little sissy punches that only work against other WC dorks who stand right in front of you doing Chi Sao instead of sidestepping and throwing a right cross.

Dig this. Your forum Kung Fu is weak, bizatch! Now, go back to that WC dummy in daddies garage and work on your Chi Sao.

[Colinfirth]

Originally Posted by NinjaKilla187

Oh NOW I get it. Your analogy is that in the same way your hero Lee ran around in circles snapping off ineffectual backfists and making scary faces on movies and TV but never actually fighting anyone, you've decided on a course of scampering around the forums blathering yourself in circles while landing no hard shots against anyone.

You must be Wing Chun stylist. That "your analogy is now my analogy and my analogy is no stronger" nonsense is your forum version of the chain punch, no? Endless, annoying little sissy punches that only work against other WC dorks who stand right in front of you doing Chi Sao instead of sidestepping and throwing a right cross.

Dig this. Your forum Kung Fu is weak, bizatch! Now, go back to that WC dummy in daddies garage and work on your Chi Sao.

I couldnt make out what you were uttering here im afraid and ive taken 2 attempts to decipher it. I doubt anyone else would be able to as well. Re-read it yourself.....are you sure you are able to.

My guess though is it is something along the lines of you sobbing because people rated Bruce Lee as a fighter so highly. In fact they think he was the greatest fighter who ever lived. You cant handle the truth, well dont ask for it.

[MysticNinjaJay]

Originally Posted by NinjaKilla187

I was with you till you brought up Kimbo.

Reasons Kimbo is a "fighter" and Lee wasn't:

1) Kimbo Slice issued open challenges and took them, fighting known and verifiable opponents.
2) Kimbo Slice has several professional fights.
3) Kimbo Slice worked in a "hands on" profession that puts one into contact with people on a fist-to-face basis (bodyguard for the Milfhunter crew).

So, the guy may be a complete dirtbag, he's not a philosopher or a founder of anything, but he is a fighter. Not a notable fighter, not a champion at the Golden Gloves, Amatuer MMA, Olympic or any other level but a fighter none the less. Lee wasn't.

Again, just because there was no Youtube to verify Lee's underground fights, with video proof, before the world doesn't mean he did not engage in fights.

There is documented testimony of him issuing and accepting open challenges such as his fight with Wong Jack Man. That means that he did put his Martial Arts skills to the test in real combat. He was primarily a Martial Artist and actor and never a professional fighter but he did fight other Martial Artists. A better example would be to compare him to the Gracies. He did have challenge matches.

[ddran15]

JKD=MMA without rules

JKD at bruces death was good for Lee cause he was physicaly able to use it the best.
So people kept JKD at Lee's death as being best style.

but kept JKD=useless crap for anyone else.