[blanko]

Originally Posted by MysticNinjaJay

Is a fighter to you only someone who competes in an organized combat sport?

I'd argue that Bruce Lee was not a competitive athlete or Professional Fighter. But he was certainly a Martial Artist who was known by several sources to have competed in underground fights.

That would make him a fighter as much as someone like Kimbo Slice is a fighter. Just because they didn't have Youtube videos back then and Bruce didn't record these fights doesn't mean he never used his skills in a real fight. Certainly with no documented evidence his fighting prowess in real combat is hearsay at best however he was more than an actor.

supposedly beating up dbags in the street does not make one a "fighter". Kimbo is considered a "fighter" not because of the untrained guys he fought but #1 his fight against a trained boxer/judoka (gannon in which he LOST) and his PROFESSIONAL MMA FIGHTS.

[Colinfirth]

Originally Posted by NinjaKilla187

Its a great analogy fucktard. Here's two more. Would you have an investment firm that had never actually made any money but had created some exotic new get rich quick scheme handle your finances? Or would you look for a firm that had a high historic rate of return?

Would you have your surgery done by a surgeon who had read medical books but never worked on a patient or by a guy with thousands of successful surgeries?

The bars and coffee shops are full of people dispensing advice about shit they have never actually tried. Good luck taking their advice.

The fighters who are assesing Lee are succesful. But realized Lee was better. The fighters who say Bruce was best are succesful surgeons. But they realized Bruce was better. Bruce wasnt a surgeon who had only read medical books. He actually put his skills up against fighters and they said he was unbeatable. So stop the weak analogies that ive got answers for constantly. !!!!

The guys who are assesing Bruce are succesful fighters. Great competitors. But they say Lee was best. Do you understand. Stop making out Bruce hadnt proved what he could do.
He didnt prove himself the traditional way. And why should he? If he did he would just be like everyone else. Bruce was a leader and did things his way. Total confidence in himself which everyone shared the same confidence in Bruce. Bruce Lee proved he was a great fighter to everyone he ever encountered. In their assesment he was the greatest fighter they had seen. They are in a position to come to those conclusions, because they were in the firing line of Bruce Lee. You werent Ninja. Bruce Lee hasnt proved he could beat all the MMA combatants fighting today. But it dont stop the fact Bruce Lee was a great, great fighter.

Those guys who had confidence in Lee are harder than you Ninja, so you would show the same confidence in him.

[mschatz]

Originally Posted by Colinfirth

The fighters who are assesing Lee are succesful. But realized Lee was better. The fighters who say Bruce was best are succesful surgeons. But they realized Bruce was better.
Stop making poor analogies up!!!!

The guys who are assesing Bruce are succesful fighters. Great competitors. But they say Lee was best. Do you understand. Stop making out Bruce hadnt proved what he could do.
He didnt prove himself the traditional way. And why should he? If he did he would just be like everyone else. Bruce was a leader and did things his way. Total confidence in himself which everyone shared the same confidence in Bruce.
Those guys who had confidence in Lee are harder than you Ninja, so you would show the same confidence in him.

Actually, Ninja's making great analogies. He was a great fighter? Prove it. With something other than so and so said so. Bruce Lee has done a lot for martial arts, probably more than anyone, but people make it out like this 130 lb dude is able to take out Tyson, Fedor, and a gang armed with baseball bats at the same time.

[Colinfirth]

Originally Posted by Colinfirth

The fighters who are assesing Lee are succesful. But realized Lee was better. The fighters who say Bruce was best are succesful surgeons. But they realized Bruce was better. Bruce wasnt a surgeon who had only read medical books. He actually put his skills up against fighters and they said he was unbeatable. So stop the weak analogies that ive got answers for constantly. !!!!

The guys who are assesing Bruce are succesful fighters. Great competitors. But they say Lee was best. Do you understand. Stop making out Bruce hadnt proved what he could do.
He didnt prove himself the traditional way. And why should he? If he did he would just be like everyone else. Bruce was a leader and did things his way. Total confidence in himself which everyone shared the same confidence in Bruce. Bruce Lee proved he was a great fighter to everyone he ever encountered. In their assesment he was the greatest fighter they had seen. They are in a position to come to those conclusions, because they were in the firing line of Bruce Lee. You werent Ninja. Bruce Lee hasnt proved he could beat all the MMA combatants fighting today. But it dont stop the fact Bruce Lee was a great, great fighter.

Those guys who had confidence in Lee are harder than you Ninja, so you would show the same confidence in him.

mschatz, my analogies are far better than Ninja analogies you will find. He fears Bruce Lee. He keeps talking trash about Bruce because he is threatened and scared of Bruce Lee. His behaviour and actions towards Bruce speak volumes and louder than his empty words will ever do to us.

Ninjakilla187 knows Bruce Lee was a great fighter. Thinks Bruce Lee was a great fighter.

[mschatz]

He's afeared of a dead guy???

[NinjaKilla187]

Originally Posted by MysticNinjaJay

Is a fighter to you only someone who competes in an organized combat sport?

I'd argue that Bruce Lee was not a competitive athlete or Professional Fighter. But he was certainly a Martial Artist who was known by several sources to have competed in underground fights.

That would make him a fighter as much as someone like Kimbo Slice is a fighter. Just because they didn't have Youtube videos back then and Bruce didn't record these fights doesn't mean he never used his skills in a real fight. Certainly with no documented evidence his fighting prowess in real combat is hearsay at best however he was more than an actor.

I was with you till you brought up Kimbo.

Reasons Kimbo is a "fighter" and Lee wasn't:

1) Kimbo Slice issued open challenges and took them, fighting known and verifiable opponents.
2) Kimbo Slice has several professional fights.
3) Kimbo Slice worked in a "hands on" profession that puts one into contact with people on a fist-to-face basis (bodyguard for the Milfhunter crew).

So, the guy may be a complete dirtbag, he's not a philosopher or a founder of anything, but he is a fighter. Not a notable fighter, not a champion at the Golden Gloves, Amatuer MMA, Olympic or any other level but a fighter none the less. Lee wasn't.

[Colinfirth]

Originally Posted by mschatz

He's afeared of a dead guy???

Well, hes got some kind of verbal diahorea thing going on with Bruce. Keeps talking about Bruce Lee. SO Bruce Lee obviosly makes him a bit worried and nervous. Brings him out in some kind of cold sweat i can envisage.


Bottom line is Bruce is too revered he feels. People view Lee as some kind of God and hes trying to bring Lee down a peg or two.

[Colinfirth]

Originally Posted by mschatz

He's afeared of a dead guy???

????

[Colinfirth]

Be quiet Ninjakilla187. We know you are scared of Bruce big time, so basically we take that as you thinking Bruce Lee was invincible.

[NinjaKilla187]

Originally Posted by Colinfirth

mschatz, my analogies are far better than Ninja analogies you will find. He fears Bruce Lee. He keeps talking trash about Bruce because he is threatened and scared of Bruce Lee. His behaviour and actions towards Bruce speak volumes and louder than his empty words will ever do to us.

Ninja knows Bruce Lee was a great fighter. Thinks Bruce Lee was a great fighter.

Did you make an analogy? If so please direct me to it as I must have missed it.

I lovvvvvvvvve Bruce Lee, who was an exciting action star and got millions of people all over the world interested in martial arts. Lee's somewhat cultish followers, who insist that he was some sort of baddass fighter absent any kind of evidence to support that, drive me crazy.