[L Vokal]

Originally Posted by Sharkk

Only if you count below 155.

Are you trying to hate on Siyar Bahadurzada?

[MrBlueLightning]

Originally Posted by L Vokal

Like I give a shit about useless Quebecois? I'm talking about the real thing. Shooto, DEEP, Pancrase, ZST, POWERgate. You know, Real Fights.


Fact: Shooto have Produced more Top 10 fighters than any other 2 organizations combined.

Fact: It has "grown" to become largely irrelevant and sports very few world class fighters in the weight classes featured in the MAJOR organizations.

And you're right, Pancrase has been all about "real fights" right from the beginning right? Doesn't ZST host rediculous tag team matches?

Those are feeder orgs just as TKO is, it just so happens TKO fighters have had more success in recent times.

[MrBlueLightning]

Haha just noticed your post in the wasteland thread "2 vs 2", and you call that "real fights".

You're a clown, send in the alternate

[unchillphil]

Originally Posted by L Vokal

Like I give a shit about useless Quebecois? I'm talking about the real thing. Shooto, DEEP, Pancrase, ZST, POWERgate. You know, Real Fights.


Fact: Shooto have Produced more Top 10 fighters than any other 2 organizations combined.

It's about the fighters, not the orgs.

And talking about useless Quebecois, since GSP is from TKO, does that make TKO the second best organization in the world, next to M-1?

Fact: There were more fighters in the UFC in the past 2 years that came from TKO than all your Japanese orgs combined.

(although that's not necessarily a good sign!)

[L Vokal]

Originally Posted by MrBlueLightning

Fact: It has "grown" to become largely irrelevant and sports very few world class fighters in the weight classes featured in the MAJOR organizations.

And you're right, Pancrase has been all about "real fights" right from the beginning right? Doesn't ZST host rediculous tag team matches?

Those are feeder orgs just as TKO is, it just so happens TKO fighters have had more success in recent times.

Shooto is infact, the largest MMA organization in the world, even going so far as being able to be classified as a sport in and of itself.

And if you're going to bring up ridiculous shit, why not talk about how biased everything about TKO is?

ARE YOU OKAY? DO YOU WANT TO STOP?
"Yes"
STOP THE FIGHT STOP THE FIGHT!

Fuck TKO.

[unchillphil]

Originally Posted by MrBlueLightning

Haha just noticed your post in the wasteland thread "2 vs 2", and you call that "real fights".

You're a clown, send in the alternate

Lol! I guess tag team isn't that bad in their case. Even with the combined weight, it would still be under 265. Speaking of that, I'm pretty convinced that a guy like Arlovski or any other talented heavyweight could probably take out 2 of these mini-fighters all by himself.

[L Vokal]

Originally Posted by unchillphil

It's about the fighters, not the orgs.

And talking about useless Quebecois, since GSP is from TKO, does that make TKO the second best organization in the world, next to M-1?

Fact: There were more fighters in the UFC in the past 2 years that came from TKO than all your Japanese orgs combined.

(although that's not necessarily a good sign!)

So, Canada has one fighter that has success, and that makes Canada or TKO a success? Yeah, that's not how it works. Basically, Superbrawl has produced more champions than TKO, think about that. Superbrawl > TKO.

And of course UFC has garnered more fighters from TKO than Japan, UFC until recently had no thought or want to actively seek out the Japanese fighters. Hell, they rarely sought out any foreign, non-NA/English talent, period.

[L Vokal]

Originally Posted by unchillphil

Lol! I guess tag team isn't that bad in their case. Even with the combined weight, it would still be under 265. Speaking of that, I'm pretty convinced that a guy like Arlovski or any other talented heavyweight could probably take out 2 of these mini-fighters all by himself.

What's the point of a statement like that? I bet a Japanese fighter given a sword could kill Arlovski if Arlovksi was unarmed. I mean, Arlovski would have a hundred pound weight advantage, considering ZST caters mainly to the 143 division.

I mean, are you people really this uneducated when it comes to the Japanese MMA scene?

[unchillphil]

Originally Posted by L Vokal

So, Canada has one fighter that has success, and that makes Canada or TKO a success? Yeah, that's not how it works. Basically, Superbrawl has produced more champions than TKO, think about that. Superbrawl > TKO.

And of course UFC has garnered more fighters from TKO than Japan, UFC until recently had no thought or want to actively seek out the Japanese fighters. Hell, they rarely sought out any foreign, non-NA/English talent, period.

Canada certainly has more quality fighters than just GSP. In relation to its population, I would think that it's probably one of the top 5 "producing countries". Why are we even discussing this anyway? It was about you complaining that your "area of expertise" was useless in SPC. I agree that it is, but we shouldn't change that by including second-grade mma promotions in the mix, that's all.

As for the UFC not bringing in enough Japanese fighters, didn't you notice I said it wasn't good?

[MrBlueLightning]

Originally Posted by L Vokal

So, Canada has one fighter that has success, and that makes Canada or TKO a success? Yeah, that's not how it works. Basically, Superbrawl has produced more champions than TKO, think about that. Superbrawl > TKO.

And of course UFC has garnered more fighters from TKO than Japan, UFC until recently had no thought or want to actively seek out the Japanese fighters. Hell, they rarely sought out any foreign, non-NA/English talent, period.

1 fighter with success? And you call us uneducated?

TKO has featured multiple UFC champs, I count 4 off the top of my head.

Brazilians are neither English nor located in South America. Many Japanese fighters have also been featured, and Europeans.