Shogun excuses by sherdoggers

[IrishFighter]

Originally Posted by Sgt. Angel Eyes

yea, ok. i'm sorry, you're right. shogun getting demolished by fedor wasn't due to forrest avoiding his sloppy single legs, outstriking shogun using his reach with straights to counter shoguns loopy punches and exposed chin, or completely nullifying shogun's bjj with modern mma groundgame tactics. it was all because shogun lost his mojo

grow up

you didnt answer the question

[heavy_hander]

Originally Posted by Sgt. Angel Eyes

methodologies: * Identifiable techniques that can be widely used in the area of study.
- 1. "the analysis of the principles of methods, rules, and postulates employed by a discipline";
2. "the systematic study of methods that are, can be, or have been applied within a discipline"; or
3. "a particular procedure or set of procedures." [1]


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what i mean is, sloppy muay thai, and gi judo/bjj training. yes, they do no gi, but not enough. their boxing is crap. and there's 0 wrestling

It should be noted that the word "methodology" is frequently used when "method" would be more accurate. (This is a classic example of word inflation.) For example, "Since students were not available to complete the survey about academic success, we changed our methodology and gathered data from instructors instead". In this instance the methodology (gathering data via surveys, and the assumption that this produces accurate results) did not change, but the method (asking teachers instead of students) did.

[Sgt. Angel Eyes]

Originally Posted by mcpeepants23200

He was still training with them but he was in the process of finding his own gym with Ninja. Let's face it Shogun had a torn acl and didn't have a full coaching staff in his preperations for Forrest. If anything Forrest is the fluke he hasn't beaten anybody besides a Shogun that was at 50%.

griffin's a tough fighter who'se using the most advanced approach to mma training today, and he works hard.

this wasn't the first time shogun's looked like this- nak made him look bad despite losing, coleman broke his arm because shogun didn't breakfall correctly, and babalu beat him because of the same exact things i'm mentioning now (wrestling weakness).

i'm just saying shogun needs to update his training, anybody who can't see that is nuthugging. bring in any boxing purists, and they'll tell you that. my muay thai instructor CRINGES whenever somebody mentions chute boxe muay thai.

whatever, sherdog's a bunch of nuthuggers, and it'll never change.

[DMFC]

Wow he lost one fight with a bum knee to a good not great opponent who had a bum shoulder. I don't think one loss makes him overrated...it just sucks that he hasnt been able to erase that memory because he hasn't been healthy

[BB in Crazy!!!!]

Originally Posted by Sgt. Angel Eyes

yea, ok. i'm sorry, you're right. shogun getting demolished by fedor wasn't due to forrest avoiding his sloppy single legs, outstriking shogun using his reach with straights to counter shoguns loopy punches and exposed chin, or completely nullifying shogun's bjj with modern mma groundgame tactics. it was all because shogun lost his mojo

grow up

I still thought Shogun won the first round with Forrest, and if he didn't gas bad it would have been a rerally close fight. If he would have had some good boxing and not torn his ACL I believe he would have won.

And the ground game looked pretty good on both parts, Forrest didn't do any better JJ wise than Shogun. If I recall Forrest had a pretty nice gash on his head from GNP. But I do agree with you on many of the other accounts. Ninja has some of the same problems.

[BB in Crazy!!!!]

Originally Posted by Sgt. Angel Eyes

yea, ok. i'm sorry, you're right. shogun getting demolished by fedor wasn't due to forrest avoiding his sloppy single legs, outstriking shogun using his reach with straights to counter shoguns loopy punches and exposed chin, or completely nullifying shogun's bjj with modern mma groundgame tactics. it was all because shogun lost his mojo

grow up

I still thought Shogun won the first round with Forrest, and if he didn't gas bad it would have been a rerally close fight. If he would have had some good boxing and not torn his ACL I believe he would have won.

And the ground game looked pretty good on both parts, Forrest didn't do any better JJ wise than Shogun. If I recall Forrest had a pretty nice gash on his head from GNP. But I do agree with you on many of the other accounts. Ninja has some of the same problems.

[choke m out]

well say wat u say bout him(which i largely disagree with) hes still an exciting fighter

[Sgt. Angel Eyes]

Originally Posted by IrishFighter

Fuck TS, have you seen shogun fight? I hate when ppl say his striking is sloppy. Yes he is wild with his punches but his leg kicks are the best a 205. He utilised them in all in fights except Forrest.

Just watch his fight with lil nog if you think his takedowns are "suspect". they won him the fight.

Oh yeh with statements like the following noone will take you seriously.

i didn't notice this till now.

shogun lands a lot of leg kicks, but have you ever seen anyone limp as a result of shogun's leg kicks? Maybe lil nog, but lil nog trained pretty much orthodox boxing for his standup, and the boxing stance is incredibly prone to leg kicks. there's an awesome boxer at our gym, his hands are way better than mine, but i can hang with him just because of how ackward his kick defense is because of his boxing stance

lil nog has terrible wrestling, and so does his brother. yes, i'm familiar they have black belts in GI judo, but that doesn't really mean much. if you can't transition it to mma, it's meaningless.

as far as wanderlei is concerned- the old wanderlei would have gotten killed by chuck. rushing in with his chin way up, he would have gotten the babalu treatment. you dont rush in with loopy punches and your chin pointed at the cieling against a counter puncher.

do you people not train any standup? any boxing? any muay thai?

[Venom999]

Originally Posted by BilderbergGroup

You're pathetic if you can't like a fighter or anything on earth for that matter just because of what other's say about it. That's extremely lame.

You have a AV of Gandhi and you insult someone because of their opinion? You are not any different than the guy you were originally insulting.

And it's true what that guy said. The only reason I want to see Fedor lose so bad is so that his fans can go cry to their moms.

[geezerjitsu]

Originally Posted by Sgt. Angel Eyes

Rampage had a broken rib BEFORE entering the ring, overeem is like, the most overrated fighter ever, lil nog gets a lot of hype because of being big nog's brother (although he is a solid fighter), and arona is a purely one dimensional fighter.
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I love how it is no big deal to get past Rampage, Overeem, Little Nog, and Arona. Talk about excuses.