[jrdenn]

Originally Posted by SHORT_BUS

This might be a fun thread to re-visit in a week or so.
I think Sherk has a better chance than people are giving him and I think it's comical that so many people are counting him out.

Like I said Sherk does have a 25% chance of winning but involves getting the fight to the 4th or 5th round ands praying BJ gasses. Sherk can win by UD but that's it.

[facedancer]

Originally Posted by bma44

I don't remember him taking GSP down. Stevenson got taken down by Mishima and Pellegrino as well. Penn tagged Hughes and stuffed his shot, that's how he took him down. Could he do the same to Sherk? Sure, I just don't see him double-legging Sherk right out of the gate.

Penn has very solid takedowns, people forget bc he likes to stand and stuff td's rather than bringing it to the ground himself.

Also people should remember that he brought in Urijah to help prepare for Sherk. I can't think of a better choice.

[Raker616]

Sherk is gonna manhandle BJ, the Penn nuthuggers are gonna be eating crow just like the Shogun nuthuggers did against Forrest. Sean will take him to the late rounds and stop him like Hughes did, BJ has never fougth a guy that is gonna push the pace like Sherk. Sean's striking is also very underated and he's got a very good chin unlike Joe Daddy, Sherk is BJ's nightmare opponent.

[jrdenn]

Originally Posted by Lorenz

Sooooo... Sherk CANT beat Penn - but hes got a 25% shot? Good math skills.

Moron, listen. I've laid out all the reason's Sherk CAN'T win, this leaves a UD being the only route for a Sherk victory, about a 25% chance of happening.

Anyone including the UPS man can win .. I just laid out the reason's why it is most likely Sherk can't win. Then I said if he got it into the 4th or 5th rounds he had a 25% chance.

I couldn't explain this all in the title and left it up to readers to understand the meaning. There isn't enough room in the title to write "Sherk can't win unless he get's past rond 1, 2, 3, and BJ tires which will then make it about a 25% chance for a UD win." A bit silly.

[Aas Gutú Adéli]

Originally Posted by jrdenn

How will Sherk win? Where will Sherk win? He's only beaten 1 top 10 opponent and he hasn't finished a top guy in his life unless you count 18 year old Karo.

I'm not saying he will.
I'm giving him better than no chance.
I'm giving him better than 25% chance.
I'm giving him about a 53% chance.
I'd prefer for BJ to win, because he fights to finish and he looks dominate and destructive when he wins.

I'll take a moment to address what you've asked.

How will Sherk win?
If he does win, it 'd probably by a decision (a UD), if not by that then a TKO in rounds 3-5.

Where will Sherk win?
Points if it goes to a decision. He'll have accrued these points by getting TDs after the second round and continually trying for more dominant positions and chopping away with hammerfists and elbows. Maybe even knees to the body. If BJ gets tired enough then Sherk might even be able to acquire some position and chop away at BJ's head. The ref will say 'gotta move, BJ, gotta move. Defend yourself.' BJ will not manage to and the ref will stop it.

He's only beaten 1 top 10 opponent and he hasn't finished a top guy in his life unless you count 18 year old Karo.
Not a question, but pretty terrible logic.
You don't have to finish to win.
And you don't have to have a history of beating top 10 opponents to beat top 10 opponents.

There was a time where people could point to Fedor and say "he's never beaten a top 10 guy." The same can be said for any number of guys. Rothwell has never beaten a top 10 guy, but I like his chances against some of the guys on the list. Has Filho beaten any top 10 guys?

[cyborgassassin]

Sherk wins by Unanimous Decision.

[jrdenn]

Originally Posted by Raker616

Sherk is gonna manhandle BJ, the Penn nuthuggers are gonna be eating crow just like the Shogun nuthuggers did against Forrest. Sean will take him to the late rounds and stop him like Hughes did, BJ has never fougth a guy that is gonna push the pace like Sherk. Sean's striking is also very underated and he's got a very good chin unlike Joe Daddy, Sherk is BJ's nightmare opponent.

Who has Sherk ever finished? Come on .. name just 1 guy?

[Redd Loc]

Originally Posted by SHORT_BUS

This might be a fun thread to re-visit in a week or so.
I think Sherk has a better chance than people are giving him and I think it's comical that so many people are counting him out.

Agreed.

[facedancer]

Originally Posted by jrdenn

Who has Sherk ever finished? Come on .. name just 1 guy?

Curtis Brigham

[positivebalance]

Originally Posted by Aas Gutú Adéli

I'm not saying he will.
I'm giving him better than no chance.
I'm giving him better than 25% chance.
I'm giving him about a 53% chance.
I'd prefer for BJ to win, because he fights to finish and he looks dominate and destructive when he wins.

I'll take a moment to address what you've asked.

How will Sherk win?
If he does win, it 'd probably by a decision (a UD), if not by that then a TKO in rounds 3-5.

Where will Sherk win?
Points if it goes to a decision. He'll have accrued these points by getting TDs after the second round and continually trying for more dominant positions and chopping away with hammerfists and elbows. Maybe even knees to the body. If BJ gets tired enough then Sherk might even be able to acquire some position and chop away at BJ's head. The ref will say 'gotta move, BJ, gotta move. Defend yourself.' BJ will not manage to and the ref will stop it.

He's only beaten 1 top 10 opponent and he hasn't finished a top guy in his life unless you count 18 year old Karo.
Not a question, but pretty terrible logic.
You don't have to finish to win.
And you don't have to have a history of beating top 10 opponents to beat top 10 opponents.

There was a time where people could point to Fedor and say "he's never beaten a top 10 guy." The same can be said for any number of guys. Rothwell has never beaten a top 10 guy, but I like his chances against some of the guys on the list. Has Filho beaten any top 10 guys?

Now that you've used the old "I'll post intelligently on the topic hand" card...



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