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Old 07-17-2008, 11:46 PM   #5231 (permalink)
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I hear yah.
I feel the same.
I get enough debate with my mom and my sis who are JW's.
I just wanted to put my two sense in to what that other poster posted about not being born into it.
How can one parents and the way they are brought up not effect ones belief structure.
If I grew up eating fish eye-balls I am quite sure I would argue the fact that they were good to people with the opposite belief.
It is hard though, to argue/debate with someone who is blindly/wholly faithful.


Wow you really need to learn how to comprehand things. Religion is not something you are born as meaning that you are not born as a Christian, Jew, Muslim or what not genetically.

You are born white, black, brown and what not genetically. You can't ever change that. That is who you are what you will always be. I was born a Roman Catholic but I chance my beliefs. Religion is not genetic so therefore you are not born as one.


It is amusing how people will get sand in their virginia without at least understanding what is being said.
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Old 07-17-2008, 11:49 PM   #5232 (permalink)

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All I gotta say is that in 2 days, this thread has increases to 524 pages and counting.
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Old 07-17-2008, 11:49 PM   #5233 (permalink)
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That guy's question was rhetorical and was intended to point out a dual standard, and you know it. It was your choice to lay into him like that calling him a "stupid motherfucker" and an "idiot". If you're gonna pull that shit you better at least have your facts straight.

Huh I think you need to read the post I posted to the other guy:



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Wow you really need to learn how to comprehand things. Religion is not something you are born as meaning that you are not born as a Christian, Jew, Muslim or what not genetically.

You are born white, black, brown and what not genetically. You can't ever change that. That is who you are what you will always be. I was born a Roman Catholic but I chance my beliefs. Religion is not genetic so therefore you are not born as one.


It is amusing how people will get sand in their virginia without at least understanding what is being said.

Huh I did get my facts straight. You are the one who misunderstood it and you got mad, and when you get mad then the anger clouds your judgement and therefore you do or say stupid things. So blame it on your low EQ (Emotion Quotient).
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Old 07-17-2008, 11:51 PM   #5234 (permalink)

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Not sure why this is the only Rampage thread but I hope to hell he is ok. I am f'ing shocked how crazy this whole situation sounds. Many of us here like to bash fighters from time to time and it doesn't really mean much of anything however this loss has really spilled over into Rampage's personal life and like him or not I sincerely hope he gets better as soon as possible. F'ing sucks that he is struggling so much emotionally right now.
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Old 07-17-2008, 11:51 PM   #5235 (permalink)

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WHOA!!!!...WTF is going on, I haven't been here in 2 days and things have really change.
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Old 07-17-2008, 11:59 PM   #5236 (permalink)

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Wow you really need to learn how to comprehand things. Religion is not something you are born as meaning that you are not born as a Christian, Jew, Muslim or what not genetically.

You are born white, black, brown and what not genetically. You can't ever change that. That is who you are what you will always be. I was born a Roman Catholic but I chance my beliefs. Religion is not genetic so therefore you are not born as one.


It is amusing how people will get sand in their virginia without at least understanding what is being said.
I am sorry if I have hurt your feelings bro but I think you are miss reading me here.
Most of the religious people I know, (My own personal experience) there parents are also. I never paint all people with one brush because everyone is different.
My point is that yes you can be "born" into a religion, belief, set of morals etc.etc.etc.
My Grandma wasn't born into it but my Mom sure the hell was and so were my two sisters and one of their daughters and they sure tried hard on me too bro. So yah in a way we are alike. We both went separate ways from the way we were raised. Good for both of us for using our own heads and making our own decisions

I am not anti religion bro. but I do get testy when people try to brain wash or sell me on anything I don't want.
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Old 07-18-2008, 12:01 AM   #5237 (permalink)

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Wow you really need to learn how to comprehand things. Religion is not something you are born as meaning that you are not born as a Christian, Jew, Muslim or what not genetically.

You are born white, black, brown and what not genetically. You can't ever change that. That is who you are what you will always be. I was born a Roman Catholic but I chance my beliefs. Religion is not genetic so therefore you are not born as one.


It is amusing how people will get sand in their virginia without at least understanding what is being said.
Sorry dude but your still wrong. You don't realize it but you are 100% programmed to see religion, as a whole, through the prism of your own (Roman Catholic) experience. Without even thinking I could name you a half dozen major religions where affiliation is conveyed through ethnicity. One can choose not to believe and become an apostate but their status as a member of that religion can not be renounced. For example, I have a Zoroastrian friend who has no belief in god and doesn't observe her faith in any way, shape or form. She is still Zoroastrian for the mere reason that her father is Zoroastrian. You can't comprehend this because, as I said, you are programmed to see all religion through your own experience.

But the real point is, stop being a senseless fla****rd and people won't all over your case.
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Old 07-18-2008, 12:05 AM   #5238 (permalink)

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Sorry dude but your still wrong. You don't realize it but you are 100% programmed to see religion, as a whole, through the prism of your own (Roman Catholic) experience. Without even thinking I could name you a half dozen major religions where affiliation is conveyed through ethnicity. One can choose not to believe and become an apostate but their status as a member of that religion can not be renounced. For example, I have a Zoroastrian friend who has no belief in god and doesn't observe her faith in any way, shape or form. She is still Zoroastrian for the mere reason that her father is Zoroastrian. You can't comprehend this because, as I said, you are programmed to see all religion through your own experience.

But the real point is, stop being a senseless fla****rd and people won't all over your case.
Very good points. The same way he says you can't choose your race, you can't choose what theism you're born into. And not believing is a nice way to be ostracized by your family and peers.


Anyway, it's sad to come home and see Rampage has been taken in on a 5150.


I hope this guy comes back.
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Old 07-18-2008, 12:11 AM   #5239 (permalink)

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Rampage thinks he’s God…He had a falling out with his trainer a couple of days before the first arrest. Basically he has lost his mind and is talking very religious and is saying that he is God. This is the main thing I wanted to keep hidden, but with the second arrest and Dana talking it will come out regardless. He needs some serious help. I don’t know if you would call it schizophrenia or bipolar disorder or what have you, but whatever it is, basically it’s become impossible to have a conversation with him. He is delusional. .

1) Rampage needs new "friends" - and if you have been around the last few days then i am probably talking about you.

2) i wont comment on Juanito - i just hope he comes through from today forward.

3) Throwdown Fight Gear hasn't helped at all with that video - they are fueling this whole thing and should be dropped as a sponsor.
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Sorry dude but your still wrong. You don't realize it but you are 100% programmed to see religion, as a whole, through the prism of your own (Roman Catholic) experience. Without even thinking I could name you a half dozen major religions where affiliation is conveyed through ethnicity. One can choose not to believe and become an apostate but their status as a member of that religion can not be renounced. For example, I have a Zoroastrian friend who has no belief in god and doesn't observe her faith in any way, shape or form. She is still Zoroastrian for the mere reason that her father is Zoroastrian. You can't comprehend this because, as I said, you are programmed to see all religion through your own experience.

But the real point is, stop being a senseless fla****rd and people won't all over your case.
What? Once your a (insert religion) you always a (insert religion)? Fail.

Your arguement makes the assumption that no one takes the time to evaluate their belief system. How is your friend a Zoroastrian if she has looked at the system and doesn't believe it, practise it, or yet even further, clearly disagrees with it?
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