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Originally Posted by cassie
Honestly if you read about how Juanito and Rampage got together, it really sounds like Juanito manipulated him with religion. I read somewhere how he got in touch with Rampage through a friend or whatever, and basically said how he had a vision from God that Rampage would be champion and all this.
I really see Rampage as someone who is easily manipulated. I think he really bought it that he was destined by God to be a champion fighter and stuff. Believing in God is one thing that I won't say is good or bad in itself, but to believe in such a fanatical way that God has any interest in whether you become a champion fighter or not is leaning a little towards crazy.
I think Juanito used this to get in tight with Rampage and ride him to the top. I think given Rampage's gameplan against Forrest, and Juanito's complete backseat on TUF, shows that he knows little to nothing about mixed martial arts or how to train a MMA fighter.
I'm afraid it will get worse for Rampage before it gets better, if he surrounds himself with people like that.In all honesty I think his career might be done because he's been allowed to think and believe pretty crazy things and people who are trying to use him like Juanito were just encouraging it. Where is now?
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That is not true. You don't know the man to say that he could be easily manipulated. And he bacame a born again Christian before he met Juanito. Rampage became a born again Christian after the Ricardo Arona fight. It was written in a article by Josh Gross.
"In the middle of a late-summer night Jackson and his kindergarten-age son D’Angelo woke up to separate, though eerily similar dreams. Both were shaken, so much so that at 4 a.m. they had to get out of their apartment. To Jackson, it was a sign. 'You know how girls cry when they’re happy?' he said. 'That’s how I was. I think I felt Jesus' love. I don’t know. I automatically knew everything after I was born again.'"
Jackson resides in Irvine, CA with his wife Yuki and two children.
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07-17-2008, 10:48 PM
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Its odd how someone like me who defend the every day people such as yourself by saying that we should never have to put up with people who buy huge ass tanks for vehicles and use them to flee police, run up on sidewalks making people run for their lives, and going through redlights can make morons upset. Yet the guy who don't give a fucking shit about anyone or anything in his path can get praised like a god and defended by all. Did you know, that when your light is red that someone elses is green? That means if they are watching the light and trying to go through then the guy running the red can sideswipe them, or god forbid they sideswipe a tank. Either way its more likely than not instant death. I don't get how some people defend this kind of behavior just because you "think rampage is cool". I don't give a FUCK who you are, you could be my dad, the pope, pres bush, I DONT GIVE A FUCK. If you get in a tank and risk other peoples life for no fucking reason then I hate nothing for you. No love, no respect. NOTHING. Just because no one got hurt doesn't mean that he gave a damn. At the moment he was trying to flee police, if the other people wasn't luckily looking out for rampage and dodging rampage would have destroyed them. Lets just take a moment out and thank all the heros that day that was paying attention and protected their children from certain death. And by the way, you called me ignorant and one word later misspelt piece. I can understand if you spelt it like peice, which is common for people and can also be considered a typO. But you spelt it like peace, which is just silly.
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you dont get this thing.. he may couldnt control his behaivor because of his mental state. i dont give a fuck if its rampage, the pope, you but i can understand how people COULD react this way if they are out of their mind. Than again nobody was hurt and thats at least a good thing. To add something english is not my native language so it doenst matter if you have problems with my grammer.
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07-17-2008, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Technine
That is not true. You don't know the man to say that he could be easily manipulated. And he bacame a born again Christian before he met Juanito. Rampage became a born again Christian after the Ricardo Arona fight. It was written in a article by Josh Gross.
"In the middle of a late-summer night Jackson and his kindergarten-age son D’Angelo woke up to separate, though eerily similar dreams. Both were shaken, so much so that at 4 a.m. they had to get out of their apartment. To Jackson, it was a sign. 'You know how girls cry when they’re happy?' he said. 'That’s how I was. I think I felt Jesus' love. I don’t know. I automatically knew everything after I was born again.'"
Jackson resides in Irvine, CA with his wife Yuki and two children.
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yeah i love how ppl on this forum really act like they were there or know jackson. its amazing how many ppl make assumptions.
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07-17-2008, 10:49 PM
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07-17-2008, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Technine
That is not true. You don't know the man to say that he could be easily manipulated. And he bacame a born again Christian before he met Juanito. Rampage became a born again Christian after the Ricardo Arona fight. It was written in a article by Josh Gross.
"In the middle of a late-summer night Jackson and his kindergarten-age son D’Angelo woke up to separate, though eerily similar dreams. Both were shaken, so much so that at 4 a.m. they had to get out of their apartment. To Jackson, it was a sign. 'You know how girls cry when they’re happy?' he said. 'That’s how I was. I think I felt Jesus' love. I don’t know. I automatically knew everything after I was born again.'"
Jackson resides in Irvine, CA with his wife Yuki and two children.
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I'm not saying Juanito introduced him to religion, he just used it to get into Rampage's head.
"For me, to have a fighter listen and respect me, I believe if they need help in life I am going to be there for them as that mentor, as that Christian mentor father figure."
"“It’s hard to explain. I just know God, I dreamt, and God said call Rampage. I called Rampage. It took me about a week. I got ahold of him. He agreed for me to call him. We talked. We were in the gym the next day for 15 minutes. That’s the history of it. It’s just one of them things. God has given me a gift and thank God that I am using it and it’s with him. Our example is to show the example whether it’s different or not, that God exists and this is why we are together.”"
ooooookay.
So there's a war in Iraq, there's natural disasters in China, but God has a personal interest in the 205lbs division of the UFC? Dude's full of it.
So according to the interview's they are father and son when he's champ. But Rampage calls Dana to bail him out, Juanito hasn't been heard from yet. Aren't you curious what's really going on here? To me it looks like Juanito rode him to the top and is distancing him now that he's melting down and realizing God didn't have any interest in his success or failure
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07-17-2008, 10:54 PM
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I think it's kind of ridiculous you can't bash gays, or blacks mexicans etc, but it's perfectly alright to bash religion. Lol. F'n democrats -_-
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Are you really this dumb? Maybe that's because everything you listed (save for religion) is NOT a personal choice. Religion isn't a product of genetic happenstance, sorry. Please go read a book.
Let's just ignore for the moment that you had to throw in a sweeping asinine generalization.
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07-17-2008, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SensitiveSusan
Its odd how someone like me who defend the every day people such as yourself by saying that we should never have to put up with people who buy huge ass tanks for vehicles and use them to flee police, run up on sidewalks making people run for their lives, and going through redlights can make morons upset. Yet the guy who don't give a fucking shit about anyone or anything in his path can get praised like a god and defended by all. Did you know, that when your light is red that someone elses is green? That means if they are watching the light and trying to go through it and there is a guy running a red that can mean certain death. I don't get how some people defend this kind of behavior just because you "think rampage is cool". I don't give a FUCK who you are, you could be my mom, the pope, pres bush, I DONT GIVE A FUCK. If you get in a tank and risk other peoples life for no fucking reason then I have nothing for you. No love, no respect. NOTHING. Just because no one got hurt doesn't mean that he gave a damn. At the moment he was trying to flee police, with no other humans safety on his mind. If the other people wasn't luckily looking out for rampage and dodging, then rampage would have destroyed them. Lets just take a moment out and thank all the heros that day that was paying attention and protected their children from certain death. And by the way, you called me ignorant and one word later misspelt piece. I can understand if you spelt it like peice, which is common for people and can also be considered a typO. But you spelt it like peace, which is just silly.
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What is your problem? Why are you stressing it so much? You know what, at least the man was not drunk. How many people everyday drive while intoxicated resulting in accidents with fatality rates involved?
Seriously, the man did a dumb thing, he fucked up and that's it. How many people don't do stupid mistakes? But you getting all wild up won't change anything. Relax.
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07-17-2008, 10:56 PM
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the sad thing about all this is that jackson was not under the influence and had no illegal substances in his vehicle. poor guy really must be going through some tough times.
when i played for an intramural basketball team, we lost the championship game and the night of the loss i couldnt sleep and i felt kind of depressed. it was a really awful feeling.
now imagine losing the title and then having ppl that you knew turn their backs on you or laugh at you because you lost. ppl that loved you now hate you. that is something really hard to handle.
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07-17-2008, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by cassie
I'm not saying Juanito introduced him to religion, he just used it to get into Rampage's head.
"For me, to have a fighter listen and respect me, I believe if they need help in life I am going to be there for them as that mentor, as that Christian mentor father figure."
"“It’s hard to explain. I just know God, I dreamt, and God said call Rampage. I called Rampage. It took me about a week. I got ahold of him. He agreed for me to call him. We talked. We were in the gym the next day for 15 minutes. That’s the history of it. It’s just one of them things. God has given me a gift and thank God that I am using it and it’s with him. Our example is to show the example whether it’s different or not, that God exists and this is why we are together.”"
ooooookay.
So there's a war in Iraq, there's natural disasters in China, but God has a personal interest in the 205lbs division of the UFC? Dude's full of it.
So according to the interview's they are father and son when he's champ. But Rampage calls Dana to bail him out, Juanito hasn't been heard from yet. Aren't you curious what's really going on here? To me it looks like Juanito rode him to the top and is distancing him now that he's melting down and realizing God didn't have any interest in his success or failure
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How many Born Again Christians say shit like that? Matter of fact how many people of any religion don't say shit like that? If Rampage is full of it so are billions of other people. Who knows what good Christianity may have done for the man. Maybe Christianity is what helped him pick himself up after getting smash by Silva for him to come back and win the UFC LHW Champion. Alot of people use religion as a way for them to gain some type of confidence and strong will power.
So seriously, Rampage is no different than the mass population out there when it comes to religion.
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07-17-2008, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by AddictedDwarf
Hmm, No i havn't been effected negatively by religion. Why does everyone try to bash religion? I think it's kind of ridiculous you can't bash gays, or blacks mexicans etc, but it's perfectly alright to bash religion. Lol. F'n democrats -_-
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Wow man you one stupid motherfucker. Religion is not how you are born as, it is what you believe. Big difference idiot.
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