[D.R.H.]

I wish they would let Helms (God willing he recovers from his nerve damage) go back to using the Vertebreaker/Cop Killa/Gringo Killer when he returns.

[chknhawk]

Oh...with all the Flair sentiment, I didn't really weigh in on the overall product. I think it is the best Mania in a long time. While I didn't like all the endings, I enjoyed EVERY match with the exception of BunnyMania, next time, just let them run around naked, that would be sooo much better than watching them wrestle. Everyone of the performers deserves accolades, because they all put on their best to make it One helluva Mania.

[Falconry]

I wish they'd stop calling Helms' enzuigiri a "shining wizard."

Trevor Murdoch I believe uses a lucha style sunset flip powerbomb, not a Canadian destroyer.

[D.R.H.]

Originally Posted by Falconry

I wish they'd stop calling Helms' enzuigiri a "shining wizard."

Trevor Murdoch I believe uses a lucha style sunset flip powerbomb, not a Canadian destroyer.

Well it is a shinning wizard though. I guess technically it's a shinning black wizard since it's a kick and not a knee, but you get the idea.

[chknhawk]

Originally Posted by Falconry

Trevor Murdoch I believe uses a lucha style sunset flip powerbomb, not a Canadian destroyer.

Oh...well it is bad ass for the big guy.

[Falconry]

It isn't a shining wizard. A shining wizard is a step up knee strike, as innovated and named by Mutoh. It isn't a shining black either, because a shining black is a shining yakuza/kenka kick (specifically), as innovated and named by Chono. Helms' "shining wizard" is neither a knee nor a kenka kick. It's just a kick (giri) to the back of the opponents head (enzui): it's an enzuigiri. The opponent is down on one knee, yeah, but that doesn't change the mechanics of the move any.

[flowwiththego]

DRH-- was that Regal quote kayfabe or shoot?

[gamebreaker]

Originally Posted by rncgnp

well apparently those reports are just rumors and have been denied by a bunch of the guys..

i still think hes a sellout....i like the guy still but he needs to give back to the E more often

[D.R.H.]

Originally Posted by Falconry

It isn't a shining wizard. A shining wizard is a step up knee strike, as innovated and named by Mutoh. It isn't a shining black either, because a shining black is a shining yakuza/kenka kick (specifically), as innovated and named by Chono. Helms' "shining wizard" is neither a knee nor a kenka kick. It's just a kick (giri) to the back of the opponents head (enzui): it's an enzuigiri. The opponent is down on one knee, yeah, but that doesn't change the mechanics of the move any.

Interesting. I've never heard the yakuza kick refered to as the black wizard before. I've always heard the difference between black wizard and regular wizard was whether or not they used the foot or knee, and it's shinning warlock if you do it from behind.

[D.R.H.]

Originally Posted by flowwiththego

DRH-- was that Regal quote kayfabe or shoot?

Don't know but it's funny either way. I would think kayfabe though.