The Official Machida Sub-forum

[Kaydoh**]

in karate kid II mr miyagi was very elusive i see where the TS is going with this. i know this because i watched the karate kid II last night.

[dowellusmc]

Originally Posted by shinwaLEO

no, mr miyagi finishes fights

Classic!

[mickdawgx81]

Originally Posted by terrible T

Macida ran the whole fight and let's face it. With that triangle Tito was closer to finishing the fight than Machida ever was. There is a difference between being a counter striker like Chuck, who throws punches to end fights and machida who would jab and run

Machida was close to finishing in the first round.

[Saku_4_life]

Originally Posted by jrdenn

Ok, guys, here's the problem :

Machida is great at what he does, he is technical and graceful as a gazelle doing it. However, it's like rooting for a baseball team who bunts every at bat to advance the runner but occasionally hits a double.

Liking or disliking Machida is a matter of opinion and nt MMA knowledge superiority. Some fans prefer more aggression, this is why I love Andreson so much, his striking is beautiful but it's also deadly, he continuously moves foward and goes for the kill.

In my opinion Machida is a poor man's Cung Le, but again, that's only MY opinion.

I dont think you can compare machida to cung lee because no one that i ever saw fighting cung lee ever tried to take him down, what the elvis sinosic fight, elvis is a grappler and he stood with cung lee, machida played his game against grapplers and strikers avoided their takedows or when he went down with them defended them well, cung lee puts on a good show... but he is no where near doing what machida does.

backpedaling is going back, machida circles his oponnents and strikes when their guard is down, he avoids takedowns very well and he can takedown people without using what most fighters do on takedowns, and thats his key feature: he surprises everybody because no one trained for what he does, tma with bjj and sumo!

machida his complete, uses a style that could easily be transfered into self defense or "street fighting" and so far he is all w's i know most of you probably prefer slugfests but you just have to look at tank abbot these days and see whats left...

there will never be a division full of machidas, so far he is unique, diferent style, diferent aproach, but even if there was it would be still a lot better than a division full with lnp'ers, wall and staller's, etc.

machida to lhw title by ufc 90

[Saku_4_life]

Originally Posted by SensitiveSusan

It's easy to sit on our couches and call the shots of how they should do it on tv. However what we see and what they see are 2 different things, Machida probably didn't know what the hell Ortiz was doing and strafed to get a better idea. He most likely didn't realize that his knee to the body did that kind of damage. We get endless angles from high and low that they don't get when they are right in eachothers faces. You must remember that. In every fight we always see something they don't, and if they was watching us fight from their tvs then they would see the same thing. Machida isn't a coward as we all know, and if he thought he could put you away he would. He must have been confused as to what Ortiz was doing.

you are right, there was a gif out there somewer in wich a guy faked he was hurt by a body shot and when the other guys rushed in for the finish he punched him in the face and it was all over, machida is smarter than that... especally against a vet (like him or not) like tito.

[curttheboywondr]

OMG YOU'RE A VET!! what the hell did that have to do with your thread. Congrats on joining the military to further yourself. Why did you include this in the title. I skimmed your thread and saw nothing of how being a vet should shed different light onto machida.

[Greyscale]

Oh, yes. You've been trolling here for 4 years and that makes you think you're smart.

[CRO_ICE]

well said

[dangotti]

Originally Posted by curttheboywondr

OMG YOU'RE A VET!! what the hell did that have to do with your thread. Congrats on joining the military to further yourself. Why did you include this in the title. I skimmed your thread and saw nothing of how being a vet should shed different light onto machida.

LOL.. he is still and idiot.. all he did was rant.. ok.. he is a vet in what? war? fighting, he is a profesional fighter? or a vet in posting at forums? LOL.. you hit him with the flying Machida Knee.. FINISH HIM!!!!! LOL

[MMA_Cane]

Originally Posted by Sam

It's F***'n ridiculous... not surprising though.

God forbid a methodical counter-striker have a little success in the cage... been watching MMA long??

If you can't appreciate a fighter who has the tools to stop a murderer like Sokodju(sp) cold turkey, not to mention be the only guy besides Anderson Silva to decisively hand Rich Franklin's ass to him.

But lets ignore all this (selective memory/ignorance does sustain your arguments) Stick with the vague clichés, breaking down his fluke-like success. You can never say "evasive" or "marathon" enough. Especially when his recent "marathon" ended up in Tito's guard, raining elbows like Tito is known for. A balls-out exciting fighter like Forrest on the other hand...
Oh! but Machida didn't give Tito enough time to take him down. They only clinched, what... several times?

Basically, what the controversy comes down to is insecurities resulting from a serious lack of info on what Mixed Martial Arts truly is. Granted, Machida is not the most exciting fighter when you want to tune into a train-wreck.

Solution: You can now buy early UFC fights in bulk. You know, the days where skill, technique, athleticism, etc took a backseat to recklessness. The days where the fighters you most likely root for reigned supreme.

Sorry Machida isn't your cup-o-tea, but considering his track record against s-k-i-l-l-e-d fighters, you're going to be bitching and moaning for a while.

Yawn. Awesome that you refer to yourself as a 'vet' too, man. You must have a lot going for yourself in life.