The Official Machida Sub-forum

[cyriljd]

machida is a great fighter but lets wait and see him against rampage or chuck or even wanderlei to see if he can take punishment also.

I dont know maybe he is the most well rounded?

[Mr. Pink]

Originally Posted by chuckalugk

This is the only two highlights in the whole fight for Machida.

Post the Tito highlights and you will be credible.

[jumpkick]

Originally Posted by cyriljd

machida is a great fighter but lets wait and see him against rampage or chuck or even wanderlei to see if he can take punishment also.

I dont know maybe he is the most well rounded?

chuck is avoiding lyoto!!! you know that right? they asked chuck if he wanted to fight lyoto and his trainer/coach said we can't beat machida.

[Bigwh1tey]

yeah... machida is the human highlight reel.

[BrazJJ_76]

Originally Posted by Rhood

People that complain about Machida are the same ones that rank Kimbo in the top 10 p4p

LOL! I completely agree with that statement...

[Beebs]

Originally Posted by DonkeyKong

You can't expect a fighter to be like another. Anderson Silva has a punch that is a lot stronger than Machida's. Machida comes from karate and he fights his own game, he doesn't relinquish control of the match.That's a correct fighting attitude. Maybe he could have finished the fight the way you think, and maybe he couldn't, but your speculation is pointless because you'd be the last person to know, and the first person to know would be the guy on the ring.

Maybe he could have at least tried? Thats all people are asking, is that he be a little more aggresive, nobody is questioning his ability.

My point with Silva is not that they should be the same fighter, but that being passive is NOT neccesarily part of being highy technical and skilled. Same with BJ, same with Thiago Silva, same with Wand.

By being content to let Tito stick around in the fight he DID reliquish control of the fight, it was very brief and the sub wasn't as close as some people think, but Tito did end up sweeping him from the bottom, something Machida could have completely stopped had he been agressive.

My point is that people who think he fought a boring fight aren't critical of his skills, I can understand somebody who isn't skilled being boring because they HAVE to, but when somebody has the skills Machida does, theres no excuse for being that passive. Letting guys like Sam Hogar and Vernon white last 3 full rounds is a choice when you are as good as Machida.

Machida gains absolutely nothing by being so passive, it isn't safer thats for sure, because he could easily turn up the aggresion just a little and still be just as hard to get to. In addition to being frustrating to watch, its actually MORE DANGEROUS to be so passive because that other guy can always land something lucky or unexpected, and that was proven tonight, hopefully Machida learns from it.

All people are asking for is that he USE the skills its so clear that he has, nobody is saying he doesn't have them. All he has to do to be a fan favorite is TRY.

[Sp@cePeanut]

Yeah Machida really impressed me last night










Ummmm nope

[Your Moms Tits]

and to be perfectly honest. I didn't think that fight was boring at all. It was certainly frustrating because he made Tito look like an amateur but I was mostly in awe. He is a really technical fighter

[RagingBeringola]

So many people complaining about Machida...

I enjoyed the fight actually...

Technique, strategy, patience, speed and acuracy...

[PEB]

Originally Posted by victorygrappler

Machida is amazing. This is mma where the best fighters win, not the most flashy ones. Go to wwe for flashiness

I thought Machida was very flashy for people who understand martial arts he showed what a true artist is able to do. He combined many martial art styles and applied them with such fluidity that it completely went over Tito's head. All Tito could come up with was he was running away from him.

No he was not in fact he was moving to stay out of reach of Tito striking but more to the point he never went running away in fact he was keeping the same distance from Tito. This was not a track meet. He was timing his strikes and entering from Tito's side to avoid Tito's biggest weapon his takedown. He was performing surgical strikes and creating openings for himself. The other thing when him and Tito finally clinched what did he do he was able to keep Tito from taking him down.

This fight was beautifully performed by Machida he is so many years ahead of Tito in the study of martial arts it was not even funny everything including boxing and the footwork. Just look at the faces of Tito and Machida to understand what happened after the fight. Tito's face looked like Machida took a baseball bat to it.