The Official Machida Sub-forum

[Beebs]

Originally Posted by DonkeyKong

So let me get this straight, he pulls an amazing takedown into great offense at the end of a round, and then the next round completely abondons it, never tries it again, and is content to not step forward the whole round, and you don't see the point I'm trying to make? He could have, at any point in that fight, gotten that takedown again, and finished Tito in about 30 seconds, but no, he NEVER EVEN TRIED IT AGAIN.

He CLEARLY has the ABILITY to stop the fight, or at least make an honest attempt at it, but he is just as clearly CHOOSING not to really pursue that, he is choosing instead to win on points, and it almost cost him the fight.

I agree 100% about his great ability and technique, but he needs to add some grit and aggresion into the mix or he is eventually going to lose to somebody completely out of his league because he lets them hang around the whole fight.

Just look at Anderson Silva, he is equally as skilled, but doesn't let anybody out of the second round, that is why one is universally loved and one is universally frustrating.

[DonkeyKong]

You can't expect a fighter to be like another. Anderson Silva has a punch that is a lot stronger than Machida's. Machida comes from karate and he fights his own game, he doesn't relinquish control of the match.That's a correct fighting attitude. Maybe he could have finished the fight the way you think, and maybe he couldn't, but your speculation is pointless because you'd be the last person to know, and the first person to know would be the guy on the ring.

[jumpkick]

Originally Posted by DonkeyKong

Only Couture and Liddell had ever managed not to be laid on by Tito. And when was the last time somebody took Tito down like this?

That's boring alright. Technique, fluidity, speed, and utter domination.

it is weird looking at machida's face... he had NO scars or cuts. it is as if he never was in a fight in his whole life... his timing is just that good.

tito got owned, but it has nothing to do with tito's skill and more to do with machida's skill. obviously from that fight machida >>> rashad evans, chuck liddell, etc. he is top 3, but will never get a title shot because i dont think the ufc wants all brazilians as champions since they are trying to appeal to

ENGLISH speaking people.

machida is in an awkward position. he is way too skilled but can seem boring to the untrained eye, and he can't speak english. from a marketing standpoint those two bullet points will probably deny him a title shot indefinitely.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by chuckalugk

This is the only two highlights in the whole fight for Machida.

not really. The ground & pound Machida inflicted while in Tito's guard was also a "highlight" (at least for me)

Machida actually looked exactly like Tito used to look in other's guards, dishing out those elbows.

[Your Moms Tits]

the only 2 highlights??


Are you people forgetting the several switch kicks he landed, as well as leg kicks...


Not to mention I don't think he got hit significantly in that entire fight. He reminds me of Floyd Mayweather. He's not going to go out of his way to try to pulverise his opponent. Thats just dumb. He's going to WIN and whatever else comes with it does

[karasmi1**]

i guess i respect his skills but machida is boring as fuck to watch, maybe if i was watching a karate tournament or something

[Jessel]

lol the Tito fans are not happy with this one.

[Team GSP*]

Originally Posted by Your Moms Tits

Not to mention I don't think he got hit significantly in that entire fight. He reminds me of Floyd Mayweather. He's not going to go out of his way to try to pulverise his opponent. Thats just dumb. He's going to WIN and whatever else comes with it does

exactly, people always talk about Penn going up and fighting him at such a weight class to overhype Penn, but Machida doesn't beat anyone by being bigger, he beats them by showing he is simply a flat out more skilled, and better technical fighter, and that goes for BJ Penn against Machida as well.

[victorygrappler]

Machida is amazing. This is mma where the best fighters win, not the most flashy ones. Go to wwe for flashiness

[endovelico]

Originally Posted by Beebs

So let me get this straight, he pulls an amazing takedown into great offense at the end of a round, and then the next round completely abondons it, never tries it again, and is content to not step forward the whole round, and you don't see the point I'm trying to make? He could have, at any point in that fight, gotten that takedown again, and finished Tito in about 30 seconds, but no, he NEVER EVEN TRIED IT AGAIN.

He CLEARLY has the ABILITY to stop the fight, or at least make an honest attempt at it, but he is just as clearly CHOOSING not to really pursue that, he is choosing instead to win on points, and it almost cost him the fight.

I agree 100% about his great ability and technique, but he needs to add some grit and aggresion into the mix or he is eventually going to lose to somebody completely out of his league because he lets them hang around the whole fight.

Just look at Anderson Silva, he is equally as skilled, but doesn't let anybody out of the second round, that is why one is universally loved and one is universally frustrating.

Yeah im sure that if he thought he could finish him under 30 seconds, but decided not to, just 'cuz.
Not impressed with your logic.