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[mkt]

Outgunned against a squid...that will be the day!!

Anyway, the Young decision was a little more than controversial...it was called a "travesty" by some.

Originally Posted by Navy_Chief

You do realize that Ali won that fight, right?

70-68
71-64
72-65

You also realize that this fight occurred during the start of his waning years. it was after the Thrilla in Manila, and Ali was no longer the same fighter.

Do not try to talk with me about boxing because you come to the table woefully outgunned.

[Flip Zee]

Dude!!! All that anger! Whadda ya do walk into the shit can after some guy dropped stinkin' load?

Chill man. This is Sherdog.

Wherd.

[Ch1d0r1]

TS you rule!

[Sledge.Hammer]

I only watch his fights when he fights exciting fighters, otherwise nope!

[Navy_Chief]

Originally Posted by endovelico

Actually i would way he is more like Willie Pep than Ali. Willie pep has finished about 25% of his fights. Even less than Machida. Would you say Willie pep was a crappy fighter/not exciting?

Willie Pep threw more punches in one of his fights then Machida has thrown in all 13 of his. Not being blessed with ko power does not equal boring. Choosing to rarely engage does.

[howlett23]

Originally Posted by Sam

It's F***'n ridiculous... not surprising though.

God forbid a methodical counter-striker have a little success in the cage... been watching MMA long??

If you can't appreciate a fighter who has the tools to stop a murderer like Sokodju(sp) cold turkey, not to mention be the only guy besides Anderson Silva to decisively hand Rich Franklin's ass to him.

But lets ignore all this (selective memory/ignorance does sustain your arguments) Stick with the vague clichés, breaking down his fluke-like success. You can never say "evasive" or "marathon" enough. Especially when his recent "marathon" ended up in Tito's guard, raining elbows like Tito is known for. A balls-out exciting fighter like Forrest on the other hand...
Oh! but Machida didn't give Tito enough time to take him down. They only clinched, what... several times?

Basically, what the controversy comes down to is insecurities resulting from a serious lack of info on what Mixed Martial Arts truly is. Granted, Machida is not the most exciting fighter when you want to tune into a train-wreck.

Solution: You can now buy early UFC fights in bulk. You know, the days where skill, technique, athleticism, etc took a backseat to recklessness. The days where the fighters you most likely root for reigned supreme.

Sorry Machida isn't your cup-o-tea, but considering his track record against s-k-i-l-l-e-d fighters, you're going to be bitching and moaning for a while.

what the hell does being a veteran have to do with anything...god you must be dumber than i thought.

First, the Franklin line...that was a long time ago and is it really hard to beat up someone smaller than you?? Last I checked Ly-bor-to was a LHW and Franklin is a MW. Now I dont want to spread too much hate because I really dont have anything against Machida, I only have a problem with people saying he is the next greatest thing and he is amazing to watch... blah, blah, blah. He is Boring. PERIOD. Is he skilled? Yes. Does he win? Yes. So do Tim Sylvia and Matt Hughes and they are boring as shit too. People are just impressed by flashy "karate" kicks and that translates into "wow he must be amazing" Lets just wait til he beats some non-can competition near the top 20 before we start anoiting him the GREATEST. This is too much like Brandon Vera arguments to me, Im done.

[CigarHouse]

It´s not entertainment, it´s MMA and the fight was exciting.

[T-Diddy]

Originally Posted by ninjacake

nothing against machida, but i think youre really wrong there.

me too

[endovelico]

Originally Posted by Navy_Chief

Willie Pep threw more punches in one of his fights then Machida has thrown in all 13 of his. Not being blessed with ko power does not equal boring. Choosing to rarely engage does.

Obviously i meant him being, the MMA version of Pep. In any Boxing round there will be more punches than most MMA fights, we both know that.

I meant style wise, they both have a more dynamic "hit and run" so to speak, rather than the circling counter-punching caractheristic of Ali.

[JGonzo13]

Well to change topics did everyone hear Tito is definitely not returning to UFC.