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06-29-2008, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Never_Back_Down
Running away is not elusive
staying in striking distance and dodging is elusive
not saying Machida is bad in any way, but elusive is not the right word to describe his style
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ding ding ding...give this man a prize
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06-29-2008, 09:57 AM
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Who is Hyoto ?
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06-29-2008, 09:57 AM
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Well he does have a bad water colour of HMC in his avatar so maybe he wen't crazy 
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hahahahahaha n00b
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06-29-2008, 09:58 AM
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Although I'm not a fan of Machida, I disagree with the TS, and agree with this guy...
If someone "evaded" as the boxer does in that video, they'd get taken down constantly, and probably catch a TON more knees to the head.
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Well the point is that Machida is not elusive.
Yes, its harder to be elusive in mma than in boxing, but elusive is still not what Machida is
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06-29-2008, 09:59 AM
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Who cares... running away or elusive. It's not going to change the opinion of people who like him or not. People who like him think he's elusive and ones who don't say he's running away.
Leave it alone.
Get over it.
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06-29-2008, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by MDX875
it's not about him slipping punches like a boxer it's about him not running away. he is/was a point karate fighter where the only strike that counts is the first. so in mma he'll come in and score then back off. that is not elusive. being elusive is dodging ones strikes. perfect example for mma

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I agree the "Elusive" tag is wrong as Machida doesn't dodge alot of strikes in close range(though he does some). What I would call him is "evasive" in that he uses in and out and lateral movment & good timing to hit his opponent then move away continously.
Running is when a fighter turns his back on another in order to run the other direction from them like for ex. Tito VS Wandy or Kalib Vs Quarry which isn't what Machida does in his fights.
I think if Machida learned to throw combos with some power when he moved in and out this wouldn't be an issue with some people.
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06-29-2008, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by GSP-FTW
Who cares... running away or elusive. It's not going to change the opinion of people who like him or not. People who like him think he's elusive and ones who don't say he's running away.
Leave it alone.
Get over it.
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and Joe Rogan and everyone else calls him elusive as well instead of calling it what it is which is running away. i just wanted to clear that up for everyone. and i have no problem with machida, i don't mind his fights but he is not elusive.
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06-29-2008, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Never_Back_Down
Well the point is that Machida is not elusive.
Yes, its harder to be elusive in mma than in boxing, but elusive is still not what Machida is
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actually its alot harder to be elusive in boxing because they take points away for not being aggresive,not too mention in boxing their hand speed is on a completely different level.
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06-29-2008, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by etenightstar
I agree the "Elusive" tag is wrong as Machida doesn't dodge alot of strikes in close range(though he does some). What I would call him is "evasive" in that he uses in and out and lateral movment & good timing to hit his opponent then move away continously.
Running is when a fighter turns his back on another in order to run the other direction from them like for ex. Tito VS Wandy or Kalib Vs Quarry which isn't what Machida does in his fights.
I think if Machida learned to throw combos with some power when he moved in and out this wouldn't be an issue with some people.
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evasisve, i like it.
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06-29-2008, 10:01 AM
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You posted the exact GIF I thought of when wondering who in MMA has ever done that like a boxer. Anderson Silva for 2 seconds
Elusive for dodging strikes, evasive for moving away from them? That's an arbitrary distinction, since the words are synonyms. You won't find it in the dictionary.
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