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Old 08-09-2006, 01:12 PM   #1 (permalink)

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Leben "competition easier in Japan" ?

Chuck couldnt beat a top 5er, Rich got KOed in inoki, all washup UFC champs get wrecked in pride, (tank,rizzo,coleman,randle,shammy).BOTH orgs have world class fighters but the "competition" as leben puts it, to become champion seems much harder in japan.to get a title shot in japan youve got to beat someone better than leben, and anderson silva may get just that. hes no 1 contender already. to get to hendo youd have a tough road.Genki, Kang, bustamante,yamamoto, manhoef, minowa, rua, sakurai, machida, saku, filho, AND hendo. is leben right? is that "easier competitoin"?
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Old 08-09-2006, 01:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Chuck couldnt beat a top 5er, Rich got KOed in inoki, all washup UFC champs get wrecked in pride, (tank,rizzo,coleman,randle,shammy).BOTH orgs have world class fighters but the "competition" as leben puts it, to become champion seems much harder in japan.to get a title shot in japan youve got to beat someone better than leben, and anderson silva may get just that. hes no 1 contender already. to get to hendo youd have a tough road.Genki, Kang, bustamante,yamamoto, manhoef, minowa, rua, sakurai, machida, saku, filho, AND hendo. is leben right? is that "easier competitoin"?
to get to Hendo you have to beat people that aren't in PRIDE or his weight class?
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Old 08-09-2006, 01:16 PM   #3 (permalink)
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if Leben drops to 170 he might have a chance but 183 is STACKED!
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Old 08-09-2006, 01:17 PM   #4 (permalink)
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This thread is pointless. Whats the point? Its just something stupid Leben said. Who cares really.
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Old 08-09-2006, 01:19 PM   #5 (permalink)

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Coleman didn't get "wrecked" in PRIDE, he actually carved out an impressive legacy for himself. You're dumb.
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Old 08-09-2006, 01:25 PM   #6 (permalink)

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You could say the same thing about Wanderlei Silva going 1-2 in UFC, and then becoming one of the biggest Brazilian stars Japan has ever known. You realize that, if Silva loses to Liddell, then his UFC record will be a stunning 1-3?

It sounds like you're quick to discredit Rich Franklin for getting knocked out by a light heavyweight. Unfortunately for you, Franklin is widely considered to be the #1 middleweight in the world, and is always in the top two alongside Henderson in one way or another. You make it sound like, if Franklin went to Pride or K-1 and fought, he'd come back with a loss.

To get to Henderson, you don't have to go through a tough road. That's because Pride doesn't schedule their title shots like that; hell, they rarely ever schedule title shots. For what it's worth, Kazuo Mizaki is getting his second shot at Henderson in a row in this "stacked weight division". David Baron is coming out of nowhere and fight Takanori Gomi in this "stacked weight division".

Nonetheless, you've lumped up all the middleweight talent in Japan and put it into one block. I've got a lump for you. Jeremy Horn, Matt Lindland, Rich Franklin, Nathan Marquardt, Anderson Silva, Evan Tanner, Ivan Salaverry, David Loiseau, Chael Sonnen, Mike Swick, Chris Leben, David Terrell, Yushin Okami. That's all USA, buddy. If I had time, I'd sit here and read off some more names. You get the point.
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Old 04-07-2007, 10:43 AM   #7 (permalink)

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I think that about wraps it up...thread finished..
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Old 04-17-2007, 08:17 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Lebenn is dumb, but your post too
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Old 04-17-2007, 08:48 PM   #9 (permalink)
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a ufc reject Nick Diaz goes to Pride and woops Gomi's arrogant's ass. how embarrasing is that?

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Old 04-17-2007, 08:52 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Sean Sherk, BJ Pen, Pierre, Matt the law, Chuck Liddell could all dominate Pride fighters in their divsion.

the only thing Pride has better that UFC is HW divsion, but that;s it.
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