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Old 05-28-2008, 07:31 AM   #1 (permalink)

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I realize this may be old....but....i feel compelled

This is my first thread, and given the content and the apparent redundancy, it may be my last. However, given the recent evidence, i'm not sure if this point has been made absolutely clear. Let me clarify. I've been an avid sherdog forum 'creeper' for a long time now, and I have read the 'rules'. Unfortunately, it seems as though the rules have been taken with a grain of salt.

If it doesn't bother anyone, I may over step my boundaries and make a plea for a higher epistemological standard on this website...alright I will.

My first pretentious order of business is as follows; the ever prevalent, but never applauded, 'ad hominem'.

I feel compelled to offer my limited knowledge (professional logic instructor/marijuana enjoyer) and suggestions on a few subjects, mainly concerning proper argumentation.

Primarily I would like to address the common logical fallacy known as an "ad hominem". This is a fairly popular logical fallacy on sherdog.
An ad hominem is when a person allows their own personal bias or opinion to interfere with the "logic" or "reasoning" of the argument being presented. This is obviously a detriment to the argumentor.

For example: Sherdog A: BJ Penn is the greatest.

Sherdog B: You're a fucking idiot!

Obviously a terrible argument for content sake, but also a terrible argument for logic's sake.

My point is simply to highlight the fact that sherdoggers need to be careful with the argumentation used. I'm not saying all sherdoggers are logical ignoramous. I am however pleading with those who understood what I was saying from the onset, to hold people to a higher level of responsibility than has been previously demonstrated. By this I mean, do not respond to poorly structured arguments, only respond to logically sound arguments (I will post a more pretentious post on 'soundness' and 'valid' arguments, in general if necessary) etc... it is our duty as reasonable and active members of the mma community. Thank you for reading my bullshit, peace out and flame on.
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Old 05-28-2008, 07:36 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Sherdog B: You're a fucking idiot!
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Old 05-28-2008, 07:45 AM   #3 (permalink)

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Well the thing is that People that have been on here a while will tell you that this place is about 50% idiots that want only to try and stir up an argument. These are called trolls most of the time and they come in all belt colors. I say that because some people think that just because a poster has a brown or blue belt that they are not a troll when in fact they are.

Another common poster you will find that loves to use this is the hater. This is a person that despite whatever a cirtain fighter does or a cirtain org does, they will bash them. A comon form of this poster is the UFC basher. I myself have never fully figured out the motivation of these sad people but for some reason they just will not give UFC an ounch of credit for anything esp when talking about their president Dana White. I can understand haveing a favorite brand that you prefer over others but to have such hatred for a brand for seemingly no logical reason(At least noone has ever presented one to me) to me is very foolish. The only thing I can consider is these people were huge Pride fans that somehow blaim the UFC for its downfall.

Lastly the one that often times will say these things are people that are frankly too dumb to come up with a logical response...sadly I get this all the time whenever I respond to something outlandish that is said with actual intelligence.

With all that said I will also point out that this is in the wrong forum as the HW forum is for talk about UFC and WEC exsclusively
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Old 05-28-2008, 07:49 AM   #4 (permalink)

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50% seems like an understatement.
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Old 05-28-2008, 08:02 AM   #5 (permalink)

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Another creeper thread....got to love it.
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Old 05-28-2008, 08:08 AM   #6 (permalink)

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Too many big words TS. I'm not reading this.

But if we're conducting a study of sherdoggers, don't forget the delusional ones. The ones who think they can beat up most fighters and want nothing to do with a smoking hot chick because of pointy elbows or whathaveya.
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Old 05-28-2008, 08:10 AM   #7 (permalink)

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okay guys, apparently i have posted my disturbing creeper thread a few times, sorry for the inconvenience. sorry for the big words?
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Old 05-28-2008, 08:14 AM   #8 (permalink)

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troll job. there is no way this writing style is for real. it really is so poorly wordy with dry linguistics that it is impossible for someone with this vast vocabulary actually writes with so many useless adverbs and adjectives.... unless of course... you are james patterson... james, is that you??
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Old 05-28-2008, 08:49 AM   #9 (permalink)

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hahahaha, I wish I was a troll, or I wouldn't take your criticism so badly. You sound like my supervisor. Sorry for the excessive adverbs and adjectives, but i'm drunk and high. Thanks for going easy on me.
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Old 05-28-2008, 08:58 AM   #10 (permalink)

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"it really is so poorly wordy with dry linguistics that it is impossible for someone with this vast vocabulary actually writes with so many useless adverbs and adjectives"

If this is some sort of ironic piss take of my writing style i'm obviously giving you a standing O right now. English undergrad?
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