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Old 05-11-2008, 09:45 PM   #61 (permalink)
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You hate the entire country because you missed a sports event? Makes sense to me.
Yeah, like that summarizes my position.
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Old 05-11-2008, 09:46 PM   #62 (permalink)
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The suicide rates here agree with you.

I like some things about Japan and even some people (for example I really like Japanese cops for some reason, and certain coworkers have become great friends), but in terms of the big picture I'm just not down. People who think it's all Zen, Sushi and manga over here are mislead. Gaijin who come here and insist on pretending it's that way are especially irritating.


Blame America for all that you are ranting about. America destroyed what was left of the authentic Japanese culture by dropping two Atom Bombs and then parading the Emperor Hirohito in front of his country men making him look less than godly and throwing all of their cultural values and National pride out the window. Japan gain fear of the Country that literally destroyed their country and from fear came a sense of reflecting of the enemy that dropped them to their knees.

The Japanese were not angels either. Their raping of China could justified the Karma affect that they had suffered from the bombs. But would they had been that powerful had the French military advisers not played a large influence in modernizing their defense back in 1867 and then again during the Meiji restoration?



Then again..what does all of this has to do with you missing a MMA card? Go get a hooker and get laid buddy. I been to Japan and it's a great country. Of course they have their flaws but which country or culture does not? See what you got me doing? You have me ranting up a storm now...Gosh man.

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Old 05-11-2008, 09:51 PM   #63 (permalink)

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Didn't you know? Anything Japanese is instantly "cool"

The bandwagon hoppers on this site never cease to amaze me. You have kids in this thread talking about "I LOVE SUMO" when Im willing to bet they've never even talked about Sumo until they opened this thread
Jeez, is there anything we can say that won't upset you??
people talking about loving SUMO and it ticks you right away.. Who cares if they seen it or not?
and why do you need to speculate if they watched it or not ??
I guess you need to let some frustration out.. must be hard making all those burgers at McDonalds is it?
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Old 05-11-2008, 09:52 PM   #64 (permalink)

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I fuckin live here, I can usually get the fights free on my TV and on my cellphone, but today, because the Japanese public has its head up its fucking ass, I have to miss the best card Japan has put out since the PrideFC sale. Instead they're airing fucking shitty, dumb stupid sumo tournaments and the gayest fucking Pro Wrestling show ever feature a who's who of MMA rejects (Sapp, Giant Silva, Bobbish, Yoji Anjo, Akebono and others). This place seriously pisses me off sometimes.
boo fucking hoo...

dont be mad at Japan for your inconvenience. you can blame the TV company, but even so Sumo pretty much gets top priority regardless.

just youtube that shit like the rest of us here in the states.

otherwise move.
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Old 05-11-2008, 09:52 PM   #65 (permalink)

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Hi Snake Eyes,

I've just finished reading your impassioned posts and with that said here are my observations;

- Your location states that you live in Sapporo, if that still holds true then I think at the end of the day you have no one but yourself to be angry at . Any big time fan of MMA who comes to Japan to live will make sure he lives and works in or near Tokyo because that is where all the big MMA events take place. Instead you placed yourself of the far north eastern fringes of Japan, in other words poor long term planning on your part.

- I would not call the Japanese "stupid" for not supporting this brand new DREAM promotion because the MMA industry right now in Japan is going through a great degree of volatility and restructuring, and hence alot of old PRIDE fans are staying away from this new MMA brand, and the tv ratings show that fact. Its not on prime time tv because it did not garner sufficient ratings to keep the sponsors happy period. Give it time and after a year or two if things go well and DREAM establishes itself it will be placed back on prime time tv. Snake eyes these things dont happen over night!

- A further observation is that I get the sense that you may be a disgruntled english teacher in Japan. I get this feeling because of your disdain for Japanese business-labor relations when you said there is a lack of workers rights in Japan I assume you meant to add vis-a-vis your home western country. As we must remember sir all things are RELATIVE and so if things such as labor relations, are a certain way in your home country, it doesnt mean in another country such as Japan they HAVE to be the same just to placate to your needs and wants. But if you have an absolutist and universalistic mindframe than most likely you consider my latter point bunk.

- In conclusion, I sympathize with you because I wish you could have watched the DREAM event as well on tv because it was fantastic but please just be patient and soon enough it will be put back on prime time tv with a full 2 hour time slot. Ultimately, even though I dont know your personal or vocational situation I do know that any gaijin who places a really high value on being able to watch MMA live in Japan will always make his best effort to work and live near and around Tokyo. I did this and I was able to enjoy DREAM 3 live from the Saitama Super Arena and I have already purchased a ticket for DREAM 4, which will be at the Yokohama arena. Indeed by living in the Greater Tokyo Area from an MMA fan's perspective the world is my oyster and the sky is the limit. To be blunt, what the heck are you doing living in Sapporo and then having the audacity to complain and whine about DREAM not being shown on tv. Your "pissed off at the stupid Japanese", no sir the only person you should be pissed off at and smearing as stupid is yourself for posessing horrible long term planning capabilites. If you are a hardcore MMA fan like myself (and I assume you are because your posting on sherdog) what on earth are you doing in Hokkaido? You must be a bigger snowboarding fan or love the Canadian type winters...I simply have no clue.


I think you should address my question because anyone else who is a big time mma fan who also lives in Japan is probably wondering the same thing ie why are you in Hokkaido? No pressure to answer as its your prerogative to disclose your situation but after laying out my observations in relation to your comments, I think you now seriously lack credibility in anything you say regarding the "stupid Japanese" because most will agree with me that your decision to live in Hokkaido, if your a big time MMA fan, was the stupidest decision ever and you were the arbiter of that decision.
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Old 05-11-2008, 09:55 PM   #66 (permalink)

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I fuckin live here, I can usually get the fights free on my TV and on my cellphone, but today, because the Japanese public has its head up its fucking ass, I have to miss the best card Japan has put out since the PrideFC sale. Instead they're airing fucking shitty, dumb stupid sumo tournaments and the gayest fucking Pro Wrestling show ever feature a who's who of MMA rejects (Sapp, Giant Silva, Bobbish, Yoji Anjo, Akebono and others). This place seriously pisses me off sometimes.

lol i visited my father-in-law in muron and went throught sapporo at the start of the year.
i loved it over there except for the fact i cant speak japanese. and i could never find anything on tv except panel shows....



.and the Mc donalds MEGA burger is the worst thing ever..

And the last thing Over there IT's Donald McDonald
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*shrug* always actually been a fan of watching Sumo, too bad I can only see it like twice a year on ESPN like 8 or something.

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Old 05-11-2008, 10:23 PM   #69 (permalink)

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The OP is actually right.

The problem is the PPV model. It makes the sport hidden in the country it is in. The local sports shows can't show the high lites.

The same problem happens here in the states. UFC is PPV only, so you don't see high lites on ESPN. Only on Spike when they have TUF and the preview shows.

If they really wanted to grow the sports in each country, they'd try to get it on regular TV.
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Old 05-11-2008, 10:23 PM   #70 (permalink)
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Hi Snake Eyes,

I've just finished reading your impassioned posts and with that said here are my observations;

- I would not call the Japanese "stupid" for not supporting this brand new DREAM promotion If you are a hardcore MMA fan like myself (and I assume you are because your posting on sherdog) what on earth are you doing in Hokkaido? You must be a bigger snowboarding fan or love the Canadian type winters...I simply have no clue.
I'm moving shit around because your post was kinda jumbled. As to this first, I am attacking the Japanese public's tastes, plain and simple. Free top-tier MMA doesn't do well enough on the ratings to merit continued primetime airing, while the worst sort of entertainment garbage, pro wrestling, does. That's fucking pathetic.

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- Your location states that you live in Sapporo, if that still holds true then I think at the end of the day you have no one but yourself to be angry at . Any big time fan of MMA who comes to Japan to live will make sure he lives and works in or near Tokyo because that is where all the big MMA events take place. Instead you placed yourself of the far north eastern fringes of Japan, in other words poor long term planning on your part.

I think you should address my question because anyone else who is a big time mma fan who also lives in Japan is probably wondering the same thing ie why are you in Hokkaido? No pressure to answer as its your prerogative to disclose your situation but after laying out my observations in relation to your comments, I think you now seriously lack credibility in anything you say regarding the "stupid Japanese" because most will agree with me that your decision to live in Hokkaido, if your a big time MMA fan, was the stupidest decision ever and you were the arbiter of that decision.
So here's your big beef that I live in Sapporo and I shouldn't or something, yadda yadda yada, which you repeated way more times than is necessary. First off, Ive been to Tokyo and Osaka and I am unimpressed, and I actually like Sapporo as a city much more. If I wanted to train MMA then Osaka or Tokyo would have been the better choice but I trained at a first rate MMA gym prior to coming here (BTT Canada/GAMMA) and that wasn't a priority (there's a Paraestra branch here anyhow that will do just fine). Nor was living in a city, for that matter; I've spent the majority of my life between Vancouver and Montreal and I personal enjoy a little nature and personal space, from what I saw the big cities here are just larger versions of the same shit Sapporo offers, except more shopping and bars. And actually the majority of the people I meet living down there have nothing but good things to say about Sapporo, it has a great reputation as a city in Japan (I have two friends born in Osaka that feel this way).

Of course, I see from your location that you're from PEI so I shouldn't be surprised at how easily impressed you are. The last Islander I brought out to Montreal (one of many because I was in fact born in Charlottetown) stared and giggled at a pair of lesbians in the bar for like an hour because it was so "crazy" to him. Sorry, but I grew up on the west coast and went back to Montreal for University. I've hitched the width and length of Canada and visited a large portion of the states as well. When I think "wild and crazy" it's much more interesting than the pre-packaged crap that happens here (for one thing, there's drugs). There's some cool little bars in Japan no doubt but it's nothing to write home about. I'm not some wet behind the ears straight out of college momma's boy out to "cut loose" in a "weird" country. Japan has failed to blow me away; so far Costa Rica and Indonesia have been far more interesting and real.


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- A further observation is that I get the sense that you may be a disgruntled english teacher in Japan. I get this feeling because of your disdain for Japanese business-labor relations when you said there is a lack of workers rights in Japan I assume you meant to add vis-a-vis your home western country. As we must remember sir all things are RELATIVE and so if things such as labor relations, are a certain way in your home country, it doesnt mean in another country such as Japan they HAVE to be the same just to placate to your needs and wants. But if you have an absolutist and universalistic mindframe than most likely you consider my latter point bunk
Of course my perspective is going to be influenced by my own cultural milieu, that's a given. But there are things you can talk about on an objective level that merit discussion. Ridiculous hours, being placed wherever the government decides to send you (often far away from your family), not having the right to strike, being responsible for student behavior outside the school, having to make public apologies to your supervisors and coworkers if you get a traffic ticket, having your wages frozen for over 6 years and not having any recourse to action, these are all real issues here. Your simple minded relativism isn't warranted here, and these aren't even issues I've had to deal with, just what I've observed or heard from my coworkers themselves (who are angry, tired and dissatisfied enough on their own without me having to ask). You strike me as the typical apologist for the Japanese experience and I think you have your head far up your ass.
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