[FlyingPenguin]

Originally Posted by MuscleHammer

Saku would kill him....better wrestler, better submissions, better standup, better personality.


BTW....if Hughes is too strong for his body wouldn't he explode?

Saku has better submissions better standup but you should be flamed for thinking he is better at wrestling.....

[MuscleHammer]

Originally Posted by FlyingPenguin

Saku has better submissions better standup but you should be flamed for thinking he is better at wrestling.....

No I think you should be flamed for not knowing better.....Flamer.

[MMATH]

Matt got dis one ! 2 Strong !

[FlyingPenguin]

Originally Posted by MuscleHammer

No I think you should be flamed for not knowing better.....Flamer.

OK? what kind of comeback is that?

[MuscleHammer]

Originally Posted by FlyingPenguin

OK? what kind of comeback is that?

Fine...here you go.

I've yet to have seen Sak outgrappled in the ring despite having fought fighters much bigger than him throughout his career. Meanwhile I recall Hughes being bitched slapped grappling wise by a much smaller BJ Penn. And I don't recall Hughes being too successful when he faced a pure grappler in Hallman.

[mmafan11]

I think sak would nullify hughes every gameplan and beat him rather easily if the fight happened in his prime you guys forget that sakuraba did fight and beat bigger stronger guys than matt hughes and even better wrestlers ala randleman thats when randleman was still considered a contender...Saku vs hughes was a dream match too bad it never happened...

[MuscleHammer]

Originally Posted by FlyingPenguin

Thanks Finish guy for telling me how wrestling works i went to high school with olympic wrestler lincoln mcallravy. I have met Dan Gable(who you prolly don't know who he is.) And btw Matt Hughes works with Dan Gable during his off time... I have seen Cael Sanderson wrestle you probably don't know who he is either... another olympic wrestler only college wrestler ever to go undefeated in 4 years... believe me matt hughes is an olympic calibur wrestler at his weight. Their is just no money in the olympics or proffesional wrestling(not the fake wrestling).

Fair enough. Didn't read this earlier. Assuming you're not bullshitting....guess I'd have to take your word for it.

[Jarzi]

Originally Posted by FlyingPenguin

Thanks Finish guy for telling me how wrestling works i went to high school with olympic wrestler lincoln mcallravy. I have met Dan Gable(who you prolly don't know who he is.) And btw Matt Hughes works with Dan Gable during his off time... I have seen Cael Sanderson wrestle you probably don't know who he is either... another olympic wrestler only college wrestler ever to go undefeated in 4 years... believe me matt hughes is an olympic calibur wrestler at his weight. Their is just no money in the olympics or proffesional wrestling(not the fake wrestling).

So you think that in Finland we are somehow ignorant of wrestling? I know who Dan Gable and Cael Sanderson are although I fail to see what they have to do with the subject.

Oh sorry, you've seen Sanderson wrestle so Hughes is olympic level wrestler. What was I thinking...

Hughes was a great college wrestler but that different than world class, and Hughes never demonstrated that he could've hang wth the worlds best.

[Escabar]

Originally Posted by FlyingPenguin

superior wrestling technique + strength > submission technique....

rampage is not the wrestler hughes is....

Saku beat Randleman and Randleman is a much better wrestler and much stronger then hughes.

[kaya]

Originally Posted by ippikiookami

If Newton could get the triangle on, bet that Sak could also have. And Sak is stronger than Newton and took some big slams in his fight with Rampage and still won. Besides that, Sak in his prime was great at takedowns, so you can't assume that Matt will necessarily be on top. Finally, the cage is a great asset for Hughes -- if he fought a prime Sak in a ring, Sak would sub him.

Yeah.. Saku with all his insane wins by Triangle Choke.

Hughes would mop the floor with Saku.. and Saku is my hero.. but it is a fact..

Royce manhandled Yoshida.
Hughes manhandled Royce.

Does this not give people an indication for how strong and well rounded Hughes is?