[SideofKO]

Originally Posted by RichC123

P.S. What does "Jay Pan ROKK" mean?

I've always wondered that as well.

[Ok]

the original article was flawed on both sides. It's design was focused more so on a supposed astute discussion between two persons instead of actually being one.

I think the words 'perfectly good' are probably value laden. Or at least from status limitations (assumptions of entities granted so as to assess) relative to a finite perspective. Which I think like the problem of the concept of infinity, would make it impossible to relate to a state typically descriptive of the concept of God. Some theology might extend this logic by adding that 'the problem' is not that simple for additional reasons.

[dust4]

Originally Posted by Jay Pan ROKK

Good text, i like it, makes us think a little bit more.

You rape kids

[Kozma]

Man i ain't readin all that shit by you

[David Koresh]

imaginary conversations about an imaginary reality

[DrSatanDracula]

Jay Pan Rokk:

Why should we give attributes to God ?

There is good and evil, they exist, why ? we dont know.

We dont know if God is perfect good or not, if God wants or not, if God even exist or not, etc.

Certain attributes have generally been given to God in discussion of him. Thus one tackles it from "the point of the major arguments".

Secondly, God requires certain attributes (infinity and omnipotence are two) in order to be the Necessary and Supreme Being. Goodness, actually, does not happen to be one of these.

[Idolmindz]

This has to be the most stereotypical conversation among all mankind. Each side taking cheap shots at each other with no viable evidence proving or disproving each others beliefs. And for what? What is the intent? Are we trying to convert each other to believe our beliefs. If science could ever come to a conclusion to whether god exists or not it would never be released. Could you imagine the uprise in the believers vs non believers, there would no doubt be a holy war and in the end who would win?
To the believers, scientificly we cannot prove got exist to meet thier criteria. But there is that overwhealming something that makes us believe.
To the non believers, explain how could god exists any other way than the way he does now without sacrificing free will?

[bychance]

I'm just glad this didn't start into a religious debate. Ain't nothing worse than that.

There was one in a YouTube video commentary on a montage of Family Guy Christian clips. Why it started, I don't know, because nothing was offensive (and its FG, so thats very telling). Last time I checked, it was up to 1,000+ comments. Coming from someone who has high speed internet connection, it took minutes for it to load.

Originally Posted by Kozma

Man i ain't readin all that shit by you

Thank God school is about to start for the kiddies soon.





Edit: Heh, 'thank God'...

[icepick]

Originally Posted by Jay Pan ROKK

No, i understand and believe in evolution, but it was not observed yet.

you can't really observe evolution in larger species.

we've seen examples of evolution, mutation, and natural selection in bacteria. but you won't see dogs transform any time soon. we just don't live long enough to see it.

[Jiu-Jitsu Cop]

Although we will not see evolution as it takes too long I think science falls when it says that we all evolved from a single organism. If that is so how did some organisms become dogs and others became humans if it was all from the same type of organism. Science tries to provide an absolute answer but it can not and that is where it falls short. This argument could go on and on. I believe in GOD and if we want to use science to explain how GOD created things that is ok with me.

If a person wants to believe in science then that is also ok with me.