[Utopia]

I can't quite place what it is, but beating a Japanese fighter just doesn't seem that much of a feat to me. Now, I am by no means saying that "all Japanese fighters are Cans" or anything like that, but just a basic feeling that a win over a Japanese fighter just isn't very impressive. From Wanderlais long list of Japanese fighters he beat, to Baroni's wins against a few Japanese fighters like Chonan after being tooled by the UFC mid-level, when I see a fighter beat a Japanese opponent, my first thought is "he beat a Japanese guy, good, but lets see how he does against a decent opponent". Is it just me or is this a more common perception? Maybe it was becasue Japanese Pride FC was dominated by non-Japanese fighters. I have tried to be as PC as possible with this theme, and of course there have been great Japanese fighters like Enson Enoi. But generally they seem pretty unsuccessful in proportion to how many of them enter mma, with the exeptions of a few like Sak and Yoshida.

[JoeRogaine714]

Dude, shut the fuck up.

[edgerrin32]

so in other words you dont have any idea what you are talking about and watch nothing but ufc and pride?

[mmashogun]

Originally Posted by Utopia

I can't quite place what it is, but beating a Japanese fighter just doesn't seem that much of a feat to me. Now, I am by no means saying that "all Japanese fighters are Cans" or anything like that, but just a basic feeling that a win over a Japanese fighter just isn't very impressive. From Wanderlais long list of Japanese fighters he beat, to Baroni's wins against a few Japanese fighters like Chonan after being tooled by the UFC mid-level, when I see a fighter beat a Japanese opponent, my first thought is "he beat a Japanese guy, good, but lets see how he does against a decent opponent". Is it just me or is this a more common perception? Maybe it was becasue Japanese Pride FC was dominated by non-Japanese fighters. I have tried to be as PC as possible with this theme, and of course there have been great Japanese fighters like Enson Enoi. But generally they seem pretty unsuccessful in proportion to how many of them enter mma, with the exeptions of a few like Sak and Yoshida.

gomi, sakurai, kid yamamoto.....those names ring a bell. tuf noob gets thrown around alot but you exemplify that term very well.

[Kaloo]

Originally Posted by JoeRogaine714

Dude, shut the fuck up.

lol

[Joe_]

Jeez, talk about TUF n00bs without a clue.

[Stonerjack]

No, I don't have that feeling.

[alcdave]

Aoki? Gomi? Machida? SHOOTO? TOP 10 LIGHTWIEGHT DIVISION?!

[Infinitycombo]

the thread starter is ignorant, i have a feeling he's not trying to be malicious but he's just very ignorant

go watch some more pride bushidos (With the LWs), shootos, k-1, etc, before you ask that question again

[JalacoJones]

Originally Posted by Utopia

I can't quite place what it is, but beating a Japanese fighter just doesn't seem that much of a feat to me. Now, I am by no means saying that "all Japanese fighters are Cans" or anything like that, but just a basic feeling that a win over a Japanese fighter just isn't very impressive. From Wanderlais long list of Japanese fighters he beat, to Baroni's wins against a few Japanese fighters like Chonan after being tooled by the UFC mid-level, when I see a fighter beat a Japanese opponent, my first thought is "he beat a Japanese guy, good, but lets see how he does against a decent opponent". Is it just me or is this a more common perception? Maybe it was becasue Japanese Pride FC was dominated by non-Japanese fighters. I have tried to be as PC as possible with this theme, and of course there have been great Japanese fighters like Enson Enoi. But generally they seem pretty unsuccessful in proportion to how many of them enter mma, with the exeptions of a few like Sak and Yoshida.

It is not just you, there are plenty of ignorant racists out there.