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Old 02-09-2007, 07:51 PM   #1 (permalink)

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African Lion VS Silverback Gorilla

For about two years now we have had this discussion going on in the house, and it seems to be about even in votes. I personally am voting for the African Lion. Its in its nature to hunt, but eh silverback has immense strength and power making it a great opponent.

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African Lion

The Lion (Panthera leo) is a mammal of the family Felidae and one of four "big cats" in the genus Panthera. The lion is the second largest feline species, after the tiger. The male lion, easily recognized by his mane, weighs between 150–250 kg (330–550 lb). Females range 120–150 kg (260–330 lb).[2] In the wild, lions live for around 10–14 years, while in captivity they can live over 20 years. Though they were once found throughout much of Africa, Asia and Europe, lions presently exist in the wild only in Africa and India.

Diet and hunting

Female lions usually hunt at night or dawn and in packs. Their prey consists mainly of large mammals, such as antelopes, gazelles, warthogs, wildebeest, buffalos and zebras, but smaller animals like hares and birds are also taken occasionally. Their diet consists of only about 20 different species. Carrion is readily taken and often recovered from other predators like hyenas and wild dogs. In some areas, lions specialise on rather atypical prey-species; this is the case at the Savuti river, where they constantly prey on young elephants, and at the Linyanti, where they hunt hippos (both rivers are in Chobe National Park, Botswana). It is reported that the lions, driven by extreme hunger, started taking down baby elephants, then moved on to adolescents and occasionally fully grown adults [1].

Young lions first try hunting at three months old, but are often not successful hunters until they are two years old.

Lions can reach speeds of about 60 km/h (37 mph), but they lack the endurance to be long-distance runners, so they have to come quite close to their prey before starting the attack. They sneak up to the victim until they reach a distance of about 30 m (98 feet) or less. Usually several lions work together and encircle the herd from different points. The attack is short and powerful, and the lion tries to catch the victim with a fast rush and some final leaps. The prey is usually killed by a bite into the nape or throat.

Because lions hunt in open spaces, where they are easily seen by their prey, teamwork increases the likelihood of a successful hunt. Teamwork also enables them to defend their prey more easily against other large predators like hyenas, which can be attracted by vultures over kilometers in open savannas. The males attached to prides do not usually participate in hunting, except in the case of large animals such as buffalo.

An adult female lion needs about 5 kg (11 lbs) of meat per day, a male about 7 kg (15 lbs).

Physical characteristics

The male lion, easily recognized by his mane, can weigh between 150-225 kg (330-500 lb), but usually most males average around 186 kg (410 lb) and females range from 120-150 kg (260-330 lb)[6], and average around 125 kg (275 lb). Head and body length is 170 to 250 cm (5'7" to 8'2") in males and 140 to 175 cm (4'7" to 5'9") in females; shoulder height is about 123 cm (4') in males and 100 cm (3'3") in females. The tail length is 70 to 100 cm (2'3" to 3'3").[7] The tail ends in a hairy tuft. The tuft conceals a spine, approximately 5 mm long, formed of the final sections of tail bone fused together. The lion is the only felid to have tuffed tail and the function of the tuft and spine are unknown.[8] In the wild, lions live for around 10–14 years, while in captivity they can live over 20 years.

The coloration varies from light buff to yellowish, reddish or dark ochraceous brown. The colour of the manes varies from blond to black. The underparts are generally brighter. The tail tuft is black.

The Silverback Gorilla

The gorilla, the largest of the living primates, is a ground-dwelling omnivore that inhabits the forests of Africa. Gorillas are divided into two species and (under debate as of 2006) either four or five subspecies. Its DNA is 97%-98% identical to that of a human,[2] and is the next closest living relative to humans after the two chimpanzee species.

Physical characteristics

Gorillas move around by knuckle-walking. Adult males range in height from 165-175 cm (5 ft 5 in-5 ft 9 in), and in weight from 140-200 kg (310-440 lb). Adult females are often half the size of a silverback, averaging about 140 cm (4 ft 7 in) tall and 100 kg (220 lb). Occasionally, a silverback of over 183 cm (6 feet) and 225 kg (500 lb) have been recorded in the wild. However, obese gorillas in captivity have reached a weight of 270 kg (600 lb).[4] Gorillas have a facial structure which is described as prognathous, that is, their mandible protrudes farther out than the maxilla.
Hand of a Gorilla, San Diego Zoo
Hand of a Gorilla, San Diego Zoo

Gestation is 8½ months. There are typically 3 to 4 years between births. Infants stay with their mothers for 3-4 years. Females mature at 10–12 years (earlier in captivity); males 11–13 years. Lifespan is between 30–50 years. The Philadelphia Zoo's Massa set the longevity record of 54 years at the time of his death.[5]

Gorillas are omnivores, eating fruits, leaves, shoots, and sometimes insects which make up only 1-2% of their diet. [6]

Almost all gorillas share the same blood type (B)[7] and, like humans, have individual finger prints

Behavior

A silverback is an adult male gorilla, typically more than 12 years of age and named for the distinctive patch of silver hair on his back. A silverback gorilla has large canines that come with maturity. Black backs are sexually mature males of up to 11 years of age.

Silverbacks are the strong, dominant troop leaders. Each typically leads a troop of 5 to 30 gorillas and is the center of the troop's attention, making all the decisions, mediating conflicts, determining the movements of the group, leading the others to feeding sites and taking responsibility for the safety and well-being of the troop.

Males will slowly begin to leave their original troop when they are about 11 years old, traveling alone or with a group of other males for 2–5 years before being able to attract females to form a new group and start breeding. While infant gorillas normally stay with their mother for 3–4 years, silverbacks will care for weaned young orphans, though never to the extent of carrying the little gorillas.

If challenged by a younger or even by an outsider male, a silverback will scream, beat his chest, break branches, bare his teeth, then charge forward. Sometimes a younger male in the group can take over leadership from an old male. If the leader is killed by disease, accident, fighting or poachers, the group will split up, as animals disperse to look for a new protective male. Very occasionally, a group might be taken over in its entirety by another male. There is a strong risk that the new male may kill the infants of the dead silverback.


Anyone have any relatives in Korea where we might be able to set this up?
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Old 02-09-2007, 07:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The lion would tear shit up.
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Old 02-09-2007, 07:55 PM   #3 (permalink)

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First of all I'll be honest I didn't read the whole thread, but..

If the lion can bite the neck on the right spot it will be over, besides the lion has claws and can use them to tear the gorilla apart.
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Old 02-09-2007, 07:56 PM   #4 (permalink)

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Wow, couldn't find any bigger pictures huh? j/k

Seriously. I'd go for the lion. King of the jungle baby.
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Old 02-09-2007, 07:56 PM   #5 (permalink)

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But...Gorillas are far stronger than lions and can possibly punch the living shit out of a lion during an attack. Just a thought.
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Old 02-09-2007, 07:57 PM   #6 (permalink)
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im gonna go with Silverback by KO, 2nd RD.
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Old 02-09-2007, 07:58 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I would say the lion wins 6 out of 10 times. I think a tiger would whoop that ape's ass though.
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Quote:
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But...Gorillas are far stronger than lions and can possibly punch the living shit out of a lion during an attack. Just a thought.
They both weight a lot, therefore the gorilla's punches won't do any real damage.
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Old 02-09-2007, 08:02 PM   #9 (permalink)
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on a side note, I was once watching TV in the living room when a friend of mine and his girl were fucking in the next room. He started making fucked up noises like a gorilla and i heard her say "ohhhhh, my silverback" or something like that in a stupid "sexy" voice.
I literally laughed so hard I had beer coming out of my nose and almost my eyes. I still crack up when i think about it.
fucking idiots.
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Old 02-09-2007, 08:05 PM   #10 (permalink)

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lion hands down my friend. they are natural killers and thats what they do to survive the are bult to kill large game and are agile and maybe slightly bigger most likely about the same size. all the years of hunting would pay off for another day in the office for a lion as he kills the silverback. also gorillas can kill other animals but its not a day to day thing for them most of them just walk around and do whatever. also lions dont fear other animals cuz the frequently hunt bigger game and fight hyenas leopards other lions and so on. silverbacks are used to being dominant and dont fight other animals or they are used to others being afraid, lions take this one easily
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