[Sam Samerson]

Originally Posted by SlowlyWeRot

You probably haven't even been to the Netherlands, there is a lot more there other than weed and whores, and a lot more than just Amsterdam.

Oops, I forgot, you're probably 14 years old and thus an immature ****.

I'm actually an immature 22 year old.

[NoSmilez]

Originally Posted by SlowlyWeRot

You probably haven't even been to the Netherlands, there is a lot more there other than weed and whores, and a lot more than just Amsterdam.

Oops, I forgot, you're probably 14 years old and thus an immature ****.

u forgot black people......

[Oebla]

Originally Posted by NoSmilez

u forgot black people......

And the Moroccans .

[kenli]

Originally Posted by Grijswaarde

But still, let's say 10 percent of the Dutch do muay thai (which they dont), and 1% of the Americans, there would still be more Americans doing it.

Is MT really THAT small in the US then?

Yes it's that small. Much smaller actually.

IMO, you can't deny, that in terms of sheer athleticism, the US have the best athlets overall. We need only look at the NBA/NFL players and the # of medals the US consistently takes home.

For some reason the US just doesn't like kicking lol.

[kenli]

Originally Posted by Grijswaarde

But still, let's say 10 percent of the Dutch do muay thai (which they dont), and 1% of the Americans, there would still be more Americans doing it.

Is MT really THAT small in the US then?

Yes it's that small. Much smaller actually.

IMO, you can't deny, that in terms of sheer athleticism, the US have the best athlets overall. We need only look at the NBA/NFL players and the # of medals the US consistently takes home.

For some reason the US just doesn't like kicking lol.

[Kaminoko]

Originally Posted by kenli

Yes it's that small. Much smaller actually.

IMO, you can't deny, that in terms of sheer athleticism, the US have the best athlets overall. We need only look at the NBA/NFL players and the # of medals the US consistently takes home.

For some reason the US just doesn't like kicking lol.

best athlets or not it does not matter, if you don't know how to block a lowkick you need to gtfo. Its not that you guys do not like kicking, its just the lack of skills and thinking yea I'm gonna stap in that ring and knock him out. Those lowkicks canot hurt me.

[UlysseS]

Originally Posted by Grijswaarde

Why can't other schools get the same result? It's a big mystery for me. It is almost unbelievable that a country with only 16 million inhabitants has such a big share of top fighters.

- good pedigree (for example a lot of the old karateka back in the days who brought kickboxing & muay thai here studied the arts in foreign countries and brought it back to holland)

- lots and i mean LOTS of schools : meaning lots of sparring partners

- small country so there's a lotta rivalry goin on between schools, there are lots of gala's and events.. competition level is very high, starting with the young kids up to the pro's

- good structure, people go through different ranking classes gradually going up these classes through the years, only to fight people of their own class... so they start out as a youth or newbee-class.. then go up to the next, and the next.. till finally they reach A-class.. so by that time they're well experienced fighters...


i guess it's sorta like wrestling in the states (?)

[BoneSnapper]

Originally Posted by kenli

Yes it's that small. Much smaller actually.

IMO, you can't deny, that in terms of sheer athleticism, the US have the best athlets overall. We need only look at the NBA/NFL players and the # of medals the US consistently takes home.

For some reason the US just doesn't like kicking lol.

You cant be that naive.

You have looked at Population differences haven't you when looking at Olympic medals? Americans are underachievers when you look at the population size. America just blast the world with sports that are popular in the US to give the impression they are the best as usual.

[Michael Wanaka]

Originally Posted by branvan16

well... to be honest, i think its because Caucasian people have gotten pretty god damn lazy.

here me out on this. and this is no way shape or form racist, just a theory i have.

i have many black friends. all of which are in great shape. naturally fast, strong, cut... you name it. athletic all around. i honestly think that in the couple hundred years that the slavery and all that crap went on, white society became lazy. all the while African-American folks were forced to do the hard work our ancestors didnt want to do. so, as evolution goes, they have maintained a natural, raw athleticism, where as white society has gone the complete opposite direction. obesity, out of shape, lazy... call me crazy.. call me what you want, i honestly believe thats why things are the way they are now.

coincidence they are superior in most sports??? i think not.

I'd look at economic reasons for black success in sports, more than a biological "evolution" argument, which doesn't hold. Evolution takes longer than a couple hundred years.

[choji]

Originally Posted by NoSmilez

i dunno but martial arts really isn't a big thing in the united states.... most people cant tell the difference between karate and muay thai. i hate telling people i do thaiboxing. it always brings the oh u do karate response?

lol I agree 100%. They think any form of organized combat arts equals karate.