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Old 04-18-2008, 06:12 AM   #11 (permalink)

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There is without a doubt a national tradition since dekker, kaman did so well.

Then, one of the main problem for a fighter is : finding sparring partners in your weight class, in your area. This is an actual problem in some larger countries where kickboxing is not that fashionable, or where distances between gyms are too great.

It seems that some foreign fighters come in holland because they know that they'll find sparring. The best train with the best, with the best trainers...
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Old 04-18-2008, 06:17 AM   #12 (permalink)

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What is Nizozemska?

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Oh wait, that's us in slovenia... hehe

Slovenie in Dutch ;)
Hahahah yeah its Nizozemska in Croatian. Serbian, Bosnian, Slovenian and Macedonian i think..
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Old 04-18-2008, 06:22 AM   #13 (permalink)

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There is without a doubt a national tradition since dekker, kaman did so well.

Then, one of the main problem for a fighter is : finding sparring partners in your weight class, in your area. This is an actual problem in some larger countries where kickboxing is not that fashionable, or where distances between gyms are too great.

It seems that some foreign fighters come in holland because they know that they'll find sparring. The best train with the best, with the best trainers...

Strong post. Somehow didn't thought of that. You are probably right, especially since Holland is the most densly populated country in the world. To go from the north to south just takes about 150 miles or so.

Also, you have a lot of examples and a MT-tradition, which makes it more acceptable. Most people here have no idea what jiu-jitsu is, and hardly anyone watches UFC. K-1 is aired on prime-time, everyone knows Aerts and Hoost, en even dorks from my work follow it.
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Old 04-18-2008, 06:23 AM   #14 (permalink)

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I DONT KNOW ANY DUTCH FIGHTERS EXCEPT RAMON DEKKERS AND HE WAS A BAD MOFO HE BEAT Coban Lookchaomaesaitong TWICE IN HIS YEARS OF KICK BOXING WITH A 185 WINS 20 LOSS WITH 98 KO'S AND 5 DRAWS, AND WAS THE ONLY FOREIGN FIGHTER TO GET FIGHTER OF THE YEAR AWARD IN THAILAND
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Hahahah yeah its Nizozemska in Croatian. Serbian, Bosnian, Slovenian and Macedonian i think..
Kroatie, Servie, Bosnie, Slovenie en Macedonie

What does Nizozemska mean? Low lands?

Or is it just derived from Nederland?
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Old 04-18-2008, 06:26 AM   #16 (permalink)

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I DONT KNOW ANY DUTCH FIGHTERS EXCEPT RAMON DEKKERS AND HE WAS A BAD MOFO HE BEAT Coban Lookchaomaesaitong TWICE IN HIS YEARS OF KICK BOXING WITH A 185 WINS 20 LOSS WITH 98 KO'S AND 5 DRAWS, AND WAS THE ONLY FOREIGN FIGHTER TO GET FIGHTER OF THE YEAR AWARD IN THAILAND
I can proudly say that i was trained by Ramon Dekker.

He was also a bad mofo during training. He used to spar very friendly, untill you hit him, then he would beat you up.

So i can also proudly state that I punched Ramon Dekker in the face, and was beaten up by him for doing it multiple times
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Either you posted in the wrong thread, or I missed something...
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yeah sparring sessions (quality, diversity and pace) is a crucial factor in a fighter evolution. It's often underestimated because people think all you need is hitting bags and shadow boxing to get stronger (thinking of rocky training)...

You could add that there is a lot of fighting events in holland, and all you need is 150miles to go as you told : thus, there is only a few inactivity for fighters.

Holland is definitely the western laboratory/university for kickboxing...
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I Can Say If Ramon In His Prime Fought Gomi In His Prime In Nothing But A Stand Up Fight The Fight Would Last For About A Min With Gomi Leaving On A Stretcher And Oxygen Mask, I Have Never Seen Someone That Weighs 160 Pounds Hit So Damn Hard
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