[K1HerosNakamura]

Originally Posted by Grijswaarde

Yeah and it still amazes me. I don't believe us Dutchmen are genetically better, hence that people like Badr Hari, Hoost en Bonjaski have either a Maroccan or Surinam background. It must be the training.

On the other hand, it is no secret how a regular Dutch training works. You set up a lowkick with some punches, or set up a flurry of punches with a lowkick (that's not all of course, but it's the first principle you learn)

The focus lies on explosive power and perfect technique. And it keeps working.

Why can't other schools get the same result? It's a big mystery for me. It is almost unbelievable that a country with only 16 million inhabitants has such a big share of top fighters.

About genetics, I'm no racist, but Dutch people are statistically bigger than most. Give Badr and Remi a country full of 6 foot 6 inch guys to train with and that helps quite a lot.

[Graver]

How easy is it to get an amateur muay thai fight in Holland?

That might have something to do with it.

It's a pain in the ass to get an amateur fight here in the states, that's for sure...they are rare and when I do get one they often get cancelled.

[Kaminoko]

lol when I began to train few years ago i trained like 3 weeks and they already gave me the chance to fight....You cannot compare it with the competition in thailand or france but theres enough gala's here

[NoSmilez]

Originally Posted by Kaminoko

lol when I began to train few years ago i trained like 3 weeks and they already gave me the chance to fight....You cannot compare it with the competition in thailand or france but theres enough gala's here

in america. they dont let you fight so quickly.... they rather milk you for all fees first... you usually gotta participate in school fights then slowly amateur fights with head gear and shin pads then to regular amateur fights....


at least thats the case with nyc

[Yanoush]

Originally Posted by Michael Wanaka

I'd look at economic reasons for black success in sports, more than a biological "evolution" argument, which doesn't hold. Evolution takes longer than a couple hundred years.

No west africans have more fast twitch muscle fibers, creatine, and all that shit

[SmashingMachina]

easy, the dutch are the tallest people in the world, they got reach...

[flynny]

its because you wear clogs.

[maddona]

Originally Posted by SmashingMachina

easy, the dutch are the tallest people in the world, they got reach...

Albert Kraus and Sauwer are far from tall

[NoSmilez]

i dont wanna stray from the topic but i dont quite understand the dutch class a Class b ranking. what does it mean?

[BRASCO]

Originally Posted by NoSmilez

i dont wanna stray from the topic but i dont quite understand the dutch class a Class b ranking. what does it mean?

In Holland there is NO diffrence between amateur fights or profesional fights. If you wanne fight you begin in the:

N-Class (Newbie league):
2 rounds of 2 minute
You wil fight 3 or 4 fights, and win minimal two or three fights.

C-Class:
3 rounds of 2 minute
After the N-clas you become a C-class fighter and wil fight approximatly fight 6 or 7 fights in the C-class.

B-Class:
5 rounds of 2 minute
After C-class fighter you become a B-class fighter. To become a B fighter you had fought between the 10 and 20 fights.

A-Class:
5 rounds of 3 minute
The A-Class league is the highest competition you can get in Holland, now you are ready to fight everybody at you weight.
If you are an A-class fighter in Holland you have already a lot of experience if you compare that to other countries (except Thailand ofcourse).

NOTE: Your trainer wil decide when you are ready to go to the next Class. Some fighters fight just 2 fights and go the the C class and some fighters fight 5 fights to go the C-class. Your trainer decide's when you are ready to go to the next class.