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Old 07-20-2006, 11:44 AM   #21 (permalink)

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The Jet was a better AMERICAN kickboxer than the dragon. Both would get owned in muay thai.

Just like a muay thai guy would get owned in American Kickboxing. I think if Benny or Don had trained in Muay Thai they would have been pretty successful like Rick Rufus and Ernesto Hoost. Before he became a K-1 champion, Hoost was strictly an above the waist fighter.
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Old 07-20-2006, 12:10 PM   #22 (permalink)
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what the hell are all you doing outside the boxing forums!!! the hell ?!?! talking about Don wilson vs Benny the jet. ahahaa??

Seriously. Ill HAVE to believe Benny was the better Kickboxer, if only for mythical purposes like Kid said. My dad still talks about him like he would destroy 95% of everyone fighting TODAY , so his hype alone beats Dons status.
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Old 07-20-2006, 02:16 PM   #23 (permalink)

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Before he became a K-1 champion, Hoost was strictly an above the waist fighter.
lol, no he wasn't.
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Old 07-20-2006, 07:56 PM   #24 (permalink)

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Kid, you never cease to amaze me with your knowledge. Cut and paste or straight from the dome?

Do study/follow all fighting sports? I know you know volumes about pugilism and even MMA, but I was unaware that you followed kickboxing/Muay Thai.

Anyway, great info.

Nice…….Thank you, I appreciate that.

Yup, I follow them all & I have for many, many years.
Why ?
They are all the same thing…….just with differing “Do’s and Don’ts” (i.e., Rules of engagement) when converted to a fight sport.

Boxing, Wrestling, Muay Thai, MMA, Empty hand Martial Arts………
I love em’ all.

Self evidently, if you plan to make some kind of living doing this, you’ll want to practice with focus on those aspects that are germane to that particular game, art or sport, but there’s no law about working on other things too.

Hell, even non striking Ssireum wrestlers and tackle practiced American football players can adapt their physical training to another sport, even one that emphasizes striking, can they not ? They can, and they do, because they are fighters, and athletes learn physical things fast.

Finding a “Pure” martial art these days is tantamount to finding a “pure” ethnic culture.
If you look a pre-historic migration patterns of humans, you see that everybody traveled around for the shelter and food supply, and did a lot of cross-tribe fucking along the way.
And if they had a self defense tradition, they traveled with that.

Each “system” has it’s proprietary name for every move, but there is nothing of great use out there that doesn’t exist in another system under a different name. The reality is that there are just so many things that you can do with the human frame to fight against another frame.
The value of fight sports, as outlined in my long-winded post above, is that they tend to weed out the weak theoretical techniques, within the rules, very quickly, without the need for life and death situations.

The style vs. style thing, when I see it, is irresistible to me on any forum, because it’s always more about the circumstances and the individual than it is about the “art”, and when I saw those two long-pants Kick boxers brought up in the thread title, I knew it would lead to one of those discussions.

MMA vs. Boxing is one I always love.
A Boxer is naked in a grappling & punching sport, unless he can grapple, and, less discussed but every bit as true, is that a MMA fighter would look like a buffoon without Boxing in there, making the argument absurd.

K-1 and MMA, at their very core, seek to bring this mix together, under their own promotional rules.

But the nexus of the things is……it’s all the same thing.

It's just those rules that make them come out looking unique.
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lol, no he wasn't.

True.......Kire Khar knows of what he speaks.
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I knew it was something high like that 63-0.
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Old 07-21-2006, 11:52 AM   #27 (permalink)
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The reality is that there are just so many things that you can do with the human frame to fight against another frame.
You said a mouthful, and I agree most whole heartedly with this!
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Both would get owned in muay thai.
Statements like these are the peak of stupidity. You do realize that one of Don's wins came against the #1 ranked Thai Lumpinee champion (Panya something) in an all-out war called 'the battle of the side-kicks' right? And yes, it was under full MT rules as well.

But of course you'd rather just make stupid assumptions about who would get owned where.
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Old 08-29-2006, 11:12 AM   #29 (permalink)

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benny...he is so amazing
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Kid, you never cease to amaze me with your knowledge. Cut and paste or straight from the dome?

Do study/follow all fighting sports? I know you know volumes about pugilism and even MMA, but I was unaware that you followed kickboxing/Muay Thai.

Anyway, great info.
x2, thanks kid for all...
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