[Eirikr]

Toshio Fujiwara: he was Kyokushinkai that beat the Thais at their own game. If you can get a hold of the vid "Kings of the square ring" you'll see how and why.

[supermma7]

MuayThai is a sport, Koykushin is a live combat. Koykushin uses more lethal technique than Muay Thai but they don't use it during sparring or matches because fighter will get killed or badly injured. You idiots think MMA is closest thing to real fight but it is not. Koykushin used to allow hitting the face with fist before but injury rate was too much which is why great Mas Oyama decided no hitting the face with hands. Koykushin matches don't use whimpy gloves, just like real fighting. Koykushin>Muay Thai

[supermma7]

In real street fight Muay Thai would be useless. There is no glove, no ball protectors and no time outs. Karate is combat not a sports.

[Kaminoko]

Originally Posted by Brazilian HKD

it's called evidence little grasshopper, i showed mine, how about yours?



prove it


prove it II



who got off the track with claims that semmy it's a full kickboxer

no proof = talking out of your ass

c mon, you used the straw man, you used bad inferences and still argue like an 3 yrs old, give me something substancial...something like ...evidences ok?

hahha prove it? dude i don;t have to prove anything, Its a freaking fact that Golden GLoRY is a muay thai/kickboxing GYM. You live thousands of miles away and talk shit and asking me to prove it? I don't talk shit why should i, I'm only trying to correct you and give you some info. Maybe you should go to there site and see that ramon dekker is one of the trainers, hopefully you know him or i will stop immidiatly.\
I said semmy fully trains in kickboxing in golden glory, you know why? golden glory doesnn't give karate sessions you moron.

[Kurzgan]

Andy Hug /thread

[Kaminoko]

Originally Posted by supermma7

In real street fight Muay Thai would be useless. There is no glove, no ball protectors and no time outs. Karate is combat not a sports.

wrong. in thailand they also fight muay thai fights without gloves and hitting to the face is allowed.

[Brazilian HKD]

Originally Posted by Kaminoko

hahha prove it? dude i don;t have to prove anything, .

great way to discuss something, you know what a fallacy is ...right?

Its a freaking fact that Golden GLoRY is a muay thai/kickboxing GYM.

again, the point is that semmy is a karate guy, not what golden glory does, we are discussin the man, not the gym

You live thousands of miles away and talk shit and asking me to prove it?

so if a say that wanderlei has a twin brother who fights for him, just because i am in brazil i become automaticly an authority and a good source...c'mon.

I don't talk shit why should i

surely? let me refresh your memory then

"yea and you know what they teach in golden glroy living in brazil. Ignorance"
" you moron"
whta's next? your father can beat my father?


,

I'm only trying to correct you and give you some info.

biased info withou any evidence, yay!


conjectures < Facts

Maybe you should go to there site and see that ramon dekker is one of the trainers, hopefully you know him or i will stop immidiatly.

so if a karate guy trains with dekkers he suddenly becomes a pure kickboxer? wow i knoe that dekkers rocks, but never thought on how his is even capable of chagning people's styles suddely!

I said semmy fully trains in kickboxing in golden glory, you know why? golden glory doesnn't give karate sessions you moron

so what? it doesn't erase semmy's past nor claims


again show me something substancial

Semmy's claims > your claims

[franz_grinder]

A lot of close-minded comments in this thread. One can only assume alot of people think they can judge a art from youtube videos and not from training. Training gives you a certain practicality about moves. You can see the bare bones of striking (simply a point of ones body being used to strike) whether it's muay thai or kyokushin. I'm not trying to insult anyone but people really need to expand their realms of thought and maybe throw some headgear on and get in there.

[Kaminoko]

maybe you should watch his fights actually instead of talking out your ass. If you had any knowledge, you would know in the k1 ring semmy stands like a kickboxer, fights like 1 , but some of his techniques comes original from karate but its perfected with muay thai. I aint claiming that he's a full kickboxer, but i say he fully practising it. thats why i said,

yea and you know what they teach in golden glroy living in brazil. Ignorance
because i train at golden glory and you dont......


and dude ramon dekker is one of his trainers....alongsie with 3 others 2 of them are muay thai trainers and 1 of them trained sem in karate-mma and kickboxing,
this ofcourse doesn't make him a full kickboxer, which i did not claim. so i don;t have to prove it. you come with a old intervieuw of him,which i don;t know if its reliable but w.e
heres your prove if you need it

GOLDEN GLORY hopefully you can find your way its in english.
theres some more but in dutch.
now heres a fight


maybe no good example but nowdays i don;t see him going down like that...but besides that he gives alot of lowkicks, which is heavenly trained kickboxing,.

oh p.s nope training 7 day a week kickbxoing for more then 2.5 years doesn't make you a kickboxer but still a karataka.... right.,...

and man you can twist things verry well, i said i don;t talk shit, meaning not talking crap about the topic, doesn't mean i cannot offend you. i think your a moron. is that talking shit when i really think your are 1.? thinking to be a smart dude, with only facts out 1 intervieuw from years ago? HMMKAY i think we better discuss this threw mail.

[Brazilian HKD]

Originally Posted by Kaminoko

maybe you should watch his fights actually instead of talking out your ass.

so i see, your enlighting knowledge is the authority now..great

Semmy
"I think all my techniques are from Karate. All my original points are from my Karate techniques."

you

"but some of his techniques comes original from karate but its perfected with muay thai"

wow tought question...i who i have to believe...

again it's we are discussing the man, not the gym, circular point...

again, in chute boxe nino had more mt trainers than bjj, so he is a mt guy now?

at least this interview sound more reliable than you


GOLDEN GLORY
theres some more but in dutch.
now heres a fight


maybe no good example but nowdays i don;t see him going down like that...but besides that he gives alot of lowkicks, which is havenly trained kickboxing,.

yeah you are right..not a good example, so lowkicks are exclusive of mt..i see

keep doing your great job

oh p.s nope training 7 day a week kickbxoing for more then 2.5 years doesn't make you a kickboxer but still a karataka.... right.,...

and man you can twist things verry well, i said i don;t talk shit, meaning not talking crap about the topic, doesn't mean i cannot offend you. i think your a moron. is that talking shit when i really think your are 1.? thinking to be a smart dude, with only facts out 1 intervieuw from years ago? HMMKAY i think we better discuss this threw mail

so here we go again

oh p.s nope training 7 day a week kickbxoing for more then 2.5 years doesn't make you a kickboxer but still a karataka.... right.,...

well that's what semmy said, so...

and man you can twist things verry well, i said i don;t talk shit, meaning not talking crap about the topic, doesn't mean i cannot offend you. i think your a moron

well you could prove a point even to a moron...it means that your are... guess what?

whta's next, your are ugly? i hate you? LOL

is that talking shit when i really think your are 1

classy

thinking to be a smart dude, with only facts out 1 intervieuw from years ago?

1 evidence > 0 evidence