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Originally Posted by Jonathan Friedman
GSP does use karate, you don't know what your looking at.
Machida could knock you into a coma, remember little buddy, he's fighting other professional fighters.
There are many traditional martial artists, to whom you would not speak the words you typed above, because you would be afraid.
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Yah I always find it funny that people are willing to talk big on sherdog, but would be deeply offended if someone walked into their dojo and started talking smack. No matter who you are, what you get out of any martial art is equal to what you put into it. Karate fighters who fight in kumite tournaments are extremely tough. Muai Thai fighters who fight in ring fights are also extremely tough. However when pairing martial artists off against one another the winner is usually decided by a mixture of four things. Skill, Luck, conditioning, and knowledge of your apponents fighting style. It's like the old saying goes you don't bring a knife to a sword fight. In the same way you don't clinche up with a muai thai striker on their terms.
Another problem with the comparison of karate vs. muai thai, is that the muai thai enthusiasts misatribute the relationship between specific training outcomes and success in the real world. It takes Karatekah longer to become acclimatized to tournament style ring fights. For the average Joe, muai thai places will teach you to kick butt alot sooner than Karate dojo's ever will. All credible karate dojo's will argue for form before application, and then application before use. Muai Thai dojo's on the other hand usually argues the other way around. This is because they are comercialized in far different ways.
If the teachings of Budah were as heavily preached in the muai thai of north america as they are in the traditional schools in thai land I doubt MT would have the same appeal. Similarily alot of Karate dojo's ditch the traditionalism and teach the equivalent of kickboxing just to appeal to our short attention spans. However once again, the nature of your devotion to an art will equate to the dividens you reap.