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Old 04-28-2008, 05:00 PM   #111 (permalink)
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Best of Kyokushin takes on best of MT. Ryu Narushima vs Anuwat... Lechi vs Kaoklai.. any perspective.. I love watching MT and I also love kyokushin. I am a kyokushin but I love both.. What can you say???
ryo vs. anuwat? anuwat wins 10/10, you think a KK fighter can take one of awauts power punches? they also have no defense against punches, elbows and throws
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Old 04-28-2008, 06:24 PM   #112 (permalink)
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KK's kick's are alot more versitile and just as powerfull as MT's.
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Old 04-28-2008, 06:38 PM   #113 (permalink)

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imo muy thai is just much more effective in a lot of ways. id list them but they are pretty odvious.
but thats not to say kyokushin should be ruled out there are actually a few top guys who use it. so i guess if it works for you use it.
but the way i see it is if you had to choose the majority would go muay thai
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Old 04-28-2008, 06:45 PM   #114 (permalink)

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GSP does use karate, you don't know what your looking at.

Machida could knock you into a coma, remember little buddy, he's fighting other professional fighters.

There are many traditional martial artists, to whom you would not speak the words you typed above, because you would be afraid.
Yah I always find it funny that people are willing to talk big on sherdog, but would be deeply offended if someone walked into their dojo and started talking smack. No matter who you are, what you get out of any martial art is equal to what you put into it. Karate fighters who fight in kumite tournaments are extremely tough. Muai Thai fighters who fight in ring fights are also extremely tough. However when pairing martial artists off against one another the winner is usually decided by a mixture of four things. Skill, Luck, conditioning, and knowledge of your apponents fighting style. It's like the old saying goes you don't bring a knife to a sword fight. In the same way you don't clinche up with a muai thai striker on their terms.

Another problem with the comparison of karate vs. muai thai, is that the muai thai enthusiasts misatribute the relationship between specific training outcomes and success in the real world. It takes Karatekah longer to become acclimatized to tournament style ring fights. For the average Joe, muai thai places will teach you to kick butt alot sooner than Karate dojo's ever will. All credible karate dojo's will argue for form before application, and then application before use. Muai Thai dojo's on the other hand usually argues the other way around. This is because they are comercialized in far different ways.

If the teachings of Budah were as heavily preached in the muai thai of north america as they are in the traditional schools in thai land I doubt MT would have the same appeal. Similarily alot of Karate dojo's ditch the traditionalism and teach the equivalent of kickboxing just to appeal to our short attention spans. However once again, the nature of your devotion to an art will equate to the dividens you reap.
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KK's kick's are alot more versitile and just as powerfull as MT's.
i agree on the versatility, but ABSOLUTELY NOT the power. that is all. Maybe accuracy is the term you are looking for (which is more of a determining factor of a KO). But never pure destructive POWER, not in a million years. And when they become just as powerful, that means they are probably doing a variation that is identical to a thai kick.
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Old 04-28-2008, 07:06 PM   #116 (permalink)
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Kyokushin... no defense at all. Muay Thai... just look at Anderson Silva and Rich Franklin. Not to mention Muay Thai began as a military tradition in 1560 AD.

MT vs. Kyokushin fighers... MT all the way!
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KK's kick's are alot more versitile and just as powerfull as MT's.
there is no comparison when it comes to power in the muay thai kicks (hence why they kick with the shin)
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I'd root for Kyokoshin, but I don't think the Thais will lose at the lower weight classes.
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Kyokushin... no defense at all. Muay Thai... just look at Anderson Silva and Rich Franklin. Not to mention Muay Thai began as a military tradition in 1560 AD.

MT vs. Kyokushin fighers... MT all the way!
Rich Franklin? Can you see his striking? not even look like MT. It's really funny there are many keyboard warrior here in sherdog. A true martial artist respect other arts. Anuwat has good KO power in his hands. Ryu has fast and powerful kick. They never met so let's not decide that KK guys will lose. You rely on watching on youtube. WTF. If one can adopt they will win. KK hands are also strong and good stomach. You never seen their training. Lechi kurbanov vs MT guys. I said they will be fuck up.
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Actually Kyokushin spun off of Shotokan not the other way around. It's founder Mas Oyama was originally a student under Funakoshi who founded Shotokan and brought Karate to Japan from Okinawa.
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