[cali_chute_boxe]

Have any of you seen this dvd? http://www.fightorflight.tv/ Just looking for some feedback if you have it. The trailer looks really good. I just ordered it today and will tell you how it is when I get it.

PS, no I will not be posting the video for download. It's only $20 so go ahead and support the guy and his crew who put this documentary together.

[theblackknight]

I've seen this video advertised before and it looked interesting, but never seen it, let us know how it is

[SadisticHitman1]

yeah i would also like to know if its a good movie. I'll probably buy it based on your review, haha i'm very easily swayed, so let me know.

[cali_chute_boxe]

Just got my copy in the mail on Saturday watched immediately. It was a great film but the focus was more about one mans struggle within himself. He used muay thai as an outlet to dispel a lot of his anger. I think this guy is a real wack-a-loon honestly! He could have filmed this vid here in America at a boxing if he wanted to. But instead, he went to Thailand for 19 months and had 2 or 3 fights from what I saw on the film. You give me 19 months to just train, I'll definitely be fighting in the mid week shows at Lumpinee or Raja making big money. He fought Chaweng stadium on Samui which is not known for having stiff competition but more falang friendly fights(WORKS). I'd like to know what else he did for 19 consecutive months in Thailand since he only had 2 or 3 matches. I know temptation is everywhere in Siam but 19 months worth of training barring all possible injuries cos none were mentioned in the film.

Save you dollars or your euros mates cos this vid just is not worth it!

[taurus]

that's pretty harsch, you go from "great movie" to accusing him of going to Thailand to exploit prostitution and god-knows-what...

but you're right, after 19 months of training in Thailand, one ought to have more than 2-3 fights in a legit stadium... and then he even tries to make money of it with charging people 20$ for the movie... wow

[pertiman]

Originally Posted by cali_chute_boxe

Just got my copy in the mail on Saturday watched immediately. It was a great film but the focus was more about one mans struggle within himself. He used muay thai as an outlet to dispel a lot of his anger. I think this guy is a real wack-a-loon honestly! He could have filmed this vid here in America at a boxing if he wanted to. But instead, he went to Thailand for 19 months and had 2 or 3 fights from what I saw on the film. You give me 19 months to just train, I'll definitely be fighting in the mid week shows at Lumpinee or Raja making big money. He fought Chaweng stadium on Samui which is not known for having stiff competition but more falang friendly fights(WORKS). I'd like to know what else he did for 19 consecutive months in Thailand since he only had 2 or 3 matches. I know temptation is everywhere in Siam but 19 months worth of training barring all possible injuries cos none were mentioned in the film.

Save you dollars or your euros mates cos this vid just is not worth it!

Thanx for the information

[CPH]

Originally Posted by cali_chute_boxe

Just got my copy in the mail on Saturday watched immediately. It was a great film but the focus was more about one mans struggle within himself. He used muay thai as an outlet to dispel a lot of his anger. I think this guy is a real wack-a-loon honestly! He could have filmed this vid here in America at a boxing if he wanted to. But instead, he went to Thailand for 19 months and had 2 or 3 fights from what I saw on the film. You give me 19 months to just train, I'll definitely be fighting in the mid week shows at Lumpinee or Raja making big money. He fought Chaweng stadium on Samui which is not known for having stiff competition but more falang friendly fights(WORKS). I'd like to know what else he did for 19 consecutive months in Thailand since he only had 2 or 3 matches. I know temptation is everywhere in Siam but 19 months worth of training barring all possible injuries cos none were mentioned in the film.

Save you dollars or your euros mates cos this vid just is not worth it!

I bought the movie as well and I was somewhat disappointed but maybe not as much as you; I never expected a 'rise to glory' sort of thing so I wasn't hugely let down by the fact that the guy was simply not a fighter (or even an athlete) - just a troubled fellow looking to learn something about himself. What I did like about the movie was the atmosphere and the 'realness'. The guy may have been a mess but he was genuine and I found his plight interesting.
What disappointed me more was the lack of structure in the way the story was told and the lack of any sort of resolution at the end. He traveled so far and went through so much but in the end, found nothing(?). I realize that this was a documentary and that the film-makers basically gambled on something interesting coming out of this but well, it didn't quite pan-out...

PS: Imagine they had done a documentary about that kid Antuan Pinto (Siangboxing) - that would have been something really great for the hardcore MT buffs/practitioners!

[Valiss]

Judging by both the somewhat negative and somewhat positive reviews, it just sounds like this could be a good video if they had a director worth their salt. If the guy and his story are interesting enough, then the content probably isn't the issue. As someone who took a few TV and Film related classes in college, I can tell you that a decent director can make all the difference, up to and including giving the story some resolution. Having a story with no resolution or an ambigious one can make the viewer feel cheated.

Thanks for the review guys!

[cali_chute_boxe]

Originally Posted by taurus

that's pretty harsch, you go from "great movie" to accusing him of going to Thailand to exploit prostitution and god-knows-what...

but you're right, after 19 months of training in Thailand, one ought to have more than 2-3 fights in a legit stadium... and then he even tries to make money of it with charging people 20$ for the movie... wow

No where in my post did I mention anything about prostitution. I didn't even see a bar girl in the vid and they are everywhere as soon as the sun goes down in Chiang Mai, BKK, and Phuket

[cali_chute_boxe]

Originally Posted by CPH

I bought the movie as well and I was somewhat disappointed but maybe not as much as you; I never expected a 'rise to glory' sort of thing so I wasn't hugely let down by the fact that the guy was simply not a fighter (or even an athlete) - just a troubled fellow looking to learn something about himself. What I did like about the movie was the atmosphere and the 'realness'. The guy may have been a mess but he was genuine and I found his plight interesting.
What disappointed me more was the lack of structure in the way the story was told and the lack of any sort of resolution at the end. He traveled so far and went through so much but in the end, found nothing(?). I realize that this was a documentary and that the film-makers basically gambled on something interesting coming out of this but well, it didn't quite pan-out...

PS: Imagine they had done a documentary about that kid Antuan Pinto (Siangboxing) - that would have been something really great for the hardcore MT buffs/practitioners!

I wish fight or flight was made about Antuan or his brother. It world have been a masterpiece.