[Jofeljoh!]

http://www.centralkickboxing.org/kic...ing_basics.htm

[axion]

Originally Posted by Kepler

This is kickboxing, not rugby, the one who advances is not always the winner.

What do you mean?

I guess some people see what they want to see.

if there is any consistancy, the pt system ranks in this order
1. strikes(punch, knee or kick) to the head
2. lowkicks
3. body punches , body knees, middle kicks
4. front kicks, kicks to the arms,

Do you have a link, source?

[JTheory]

Originally Posted by BabiPangang

People don't understand the K1 rules obviously.

Buakaw was constantly doing the same thing, left middle/high kick on Alberts underarms, but he also scored points throuhg lowkicks and some boxing. The middle/high kicks is a direct hit on Albert's defence and a block and so not considered a point under K1 rules. Albert was making points due lowkicks and also through boxing. Sow the point totals where quite even at the end. And thus a draw was justified completly.

Albert won round 4 because he scored way more points then Buakaw. The jury gave it to Buakaw anyway and that is why Albert was pissed off. He won fair and square but the judges felt otherwise.

The same thing happend with Souwer against Yod, Yod was kicking more but he was not making any points. This is K1 and not Muay Thai.

That's why a lot of Muay Thai purist get angry and scream trash, but you have to understand the rules of the game that is being played.

Compare it to this:
K1 = Soccer , only a goal wen the ball is behind the keeper

Muay Thai = always a goal even if the kepper stops the ball

The thing that's lame about K-1 scoring is that, as we've seen in the past, kicking in the arm/ blocking with the arm is very dangerous. Just ask Frank Shamrock

[SlowlyWeRot]

Originally Posted by JTheory

The thing that's lame about K-1 scoring is that, as we've seen in the past, kicking in the arm/ blocking with the arm is very dangerous. Just ask Frank Shamrock

Not always; Frank was blocking Le's kicks incorrectly anyways.

[Kepler]

Originally Posted by axion

What do you mean?

I guess some people see what they want to see.



Do you have a link, source?

You can lose even if you're the one to move forward if you take more shots than you give.

[JTheory]

Originally Posted by SlowlyWeRot

Not always; Frank was blocking Le's kicks incorrectly anyways.

I disagree, Bruce Mcfie was getting slaughtered by Yod's kicks in the arm. This happens quite frequently from what I've seen

[Hofmeyr]

Originally Posted by Jofeljoh!

http://www.centralkickboxing.org/kic...ing_basics.htm

There it is. If people only clicked on this link and fucking read a little bit there would never be any confusion over this shit.

Originally Posted by JTheory

I disagree, Bruce Mcfie was getting slaughtered by Yod's kicks in the arm. This happens quite frequently from what I've seen

Dandrade vs Varnica comes to mind.

[journeyman]

Thing is, buakaw didnt win because he was kicking kraus' arm. He won because he hit the target more frequently than did kraus. Also, the quality of strikes im sure had an impact on the judges. People saying kraus won should watch it again, even the last round.

[Julius Wang Shi]

Many fans in Japan feel that it was in fact Buakaw who got screwed rather than Kraus. The fans believe that the extra round was not needed to determine the winner since Buakaw had already demonstrated his victory in the first three rounds.

[axion]

Originally Posted by Kepler

You can lose even if you're the one to move forward if you take more shots than you give.

Thats how it should be. Moving forward, being aggressive and throwing strikes is only part of the game, you have to hit (scoring areas) and not be hit (in scoring areas).

Even the guy who says mid-kicks to the arms are scoring shots admits they are one of the lowest scoring shots, so Buakaw would have to land something like 3 or 4 of them for every clean shot to the head.

http://www.centralkickboxing.org/kic...ing_basics.htm

I had a quick look and the first example I checked was fucked up. Also I didn't see where it mentioned what types of shots scored and how much weighting each was given. Maybe I missed it, will check again later.