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Old 04-16-2008, 09:50 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Youre saying It wasnt clear who won the first three rounds?
I'm saying that there isn't any consensus in this matter, meaning that people still have different opinions about the match. They are still debating (see the other Kraus-thread in this forum for example) and far from everyone thinks it's clear that Kraus won. My original point was that the TS made it look like everyone thought Kraus won, that ain't true.
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Old 04-16-2008, 09:59 AM   #22 (permalink)

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I'm saying that there isn't any consensus in this matter, meaning that people still have different opinions about the match. They are still debating (see the other Kraus-thread in this forum for example) and far from everyone thinks it's clear that Kraus won. My original point was that the TS made it look like everyone thought Kraus won, that ain't true.
Maybe its just me but I thought the fight was pretty one sided until the extra round. I sat there and watched Kraus get owned. Then again, maybe im just not educated enough on the scoring.
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Old 04-16-2008, 10:05 AM   #23 (permalink)

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Visible damage? So there has to be a bruse?
Or a reaction.
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Old 04-16-2008, 10:32 AM   #24 (permalink)

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Maybe its just me but I thought the fight was pretty one sided until the extra round. I sat there and watched Kraus get owned. Then again, maybe im just not educated enough on the scoring.
nah you saw it right, and i also think that kraus did not win that extra round. Buakaw scored more, he landed knees,lowkicks and some of his punches also landed. kraus did good but most of his combo's missed or landed on buakaw's gloves.
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Old 04-16-2008, 11:10 AM   #25 (permalink)

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too many draws these days, the K-1 WGP 2008 had some horrible judging too......
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Old 04-16-2008, 11:34 AM   #26 (permalink)

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i felt even though some were blocked Buakaw was still landing more mids and lows, and some punches of his own enough to win the first 3
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Old 04-16-2008, 11:41 AM   #27 (permalink)
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People don't understand the K1 rules obviously.

Buakaw was constantly doing the same thing, left middle/high kick on Alberts underarms, but he also scored points throuhg lowkicks and some boxing. The middle/high kicks is a direct hit on Albert's defence and a block and so not considered a point under K1 rules. Albert was making points due lowkicks and also through boxing. Sow the point totals where quite even at the end. And thus a draw was justified completly.

Albert won round 4 because he scored way more points then Buakaw. The jury gave it to Buakaw anyway and that is why Albert was pissed off. He won fair and square but the judges felt otherwise.

The same thing happend with Souwer against Yod, Yod was kicking more but he was not making any points. This is K1 and not Muay Thai.

That's why a lot of Muay Thai purist get angry and scream trash, but you have to understand the rules of the game that is being played.

Compare it to this:
K1 = Soccer , only a goal wen the ball is behind the keeper

Muay Thai = always a goal even if the kepper stops the ball

kicks to the arm are scored in k-1, they have never been considred 'blocks', not in the past, not now, never
i don't know where the hell you people get your information

the overall pt system has always been gray in k-1 or muay thai
but one thing is for sure is in k-1, kicks to the arms count less than most ever other strike which includes punches and lows

if there is any consistancy, the pt system ranks in this order
1. strikes(punch, knee or kick) to the head
2. lowkicks
3. body punches , body knees, middle kicks
4. front kicks, kicks to the arms,

and no pts for grappling
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Old 04-16-2008, 11:43 AM   #28 (permalink)

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nah you saw it right, and i also think that kraus did not win that extra round. Buakaw scored more, he landed knees,lowkicks and some of his punches also landed. kraus did good but most of his combo's missed or landed on buakaw's gloves.
agreed. I saw only the extra round. Kraus was more active but I saw only a few punches clearly connecting Buakaw. Buakaw landed more in that round. This is kickboxing, not rugby, the one who advances is not always the winner.

I can't understand why so many peoples saw this round for kraus.
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kicks to the arm are scored in k-1, they have never been considred 'blocks', not in the past, not now, never
i don't know where the hell you people get your information

the overall pt system has always been gray in k-1 or muay thai
but one thing is for sure is in k-1, kicks to the arms count less than most ever other strike which includes punches and lows

if there is any consistancy, the pt system ranks in this order
1. strikes(punch, knee or kick) to the head
2. lowkicks
3. body punches , body knees, middle kicks
4. front kicks, kicks to the arms,

and no pts for grappling

thats for clearing this up.
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People don't understand the K1 rules obviously.
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You re wrong, K1 rules are clear as crystal : $$$ and sometimes national pride
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