[axion]

Originally Posted by Kaminoko

dude you make it sound that all buakaw's middle kicks were on the block. well NOT
Now in the extra round, buakaw scored well, with knees,lowkicks,middle and combo's while kraus did also, p.s not all of kraus punches landed....A punch that land on buakaw's gloves is not a point....The extra round was close no one dominated so the judges bases there descision on the previous 3 rounds which buakaw obviously was the one who got the advantage.

The extra round scoring has nothing to do with the previous 3 rounds.

I wasn't really paying close enough attention and scoring round by round during the first 3 rounds so I can't comment with any certainty without rewatching, except to say that it was close. The extra round was definitely Krauses in my opinion.

K1 = Not scoring hard kicks to the arms but for some reason, scoring hard kicks to the legs.

Blocked leg kicks are not scoring strikes. Blocked mid-kicks are not scoring strikes. What don't you understand? If a fighter raises his arms and blocks an attempted head kick do you score it?

[Michael Wanaka]

Originally Posted by Kaminoko

dude you make it sound that all buakaw's middle kicks were on the block. well NOT
Now in the extra round, buakaw scored well, with knees,lowkicks,middle and combo's while kraus did also, p.s not all of kraus punches landed....A punch that land on buakaw's gloves is not a point....The extra round was close no one dominated so the judges bases there descision on the previous 3 rounds which buakaw obviously was the one who got the advantage.

That's not the way it works. The fighter who wins the extra round wins the fight. The three rounds before don't matter if there's an extra round.

Kraus got screwed.

[BrikkCity]

Originally Posted by CPH

Your comparison is absurd.
But here's a better one:

MT = Scoring hard kicks to the arms and scoring hard kicks to the legs.

K1 = Not scoring hard kicks to the arms but for some reason, scoring hard kicks to the legs.

Seriously, K-1 should just outlaw low-kicks and then their rules would make some kind of sense...

But regardless of that, there was no draw after 3 rounds - Buakaw was (once again) sent into the extra round for no reason at all.

But here's the best one:

If Kraus were to stand on his hands with his legs in the air, would kicks to his arms count as points? And would high kicks to his legs not count because they were blocking his body?


It's a funny image, but seriously, you have to count the shots that land clean, and FYI leg kicks dont count as much as body kicks or head kicks.

[right hand lead]

Originally Posted by Michael Wanaka

That's not the way it works. The fighter who wins the extra round wins the fight. The three rounds before don't matter if there's an extra round.

Kraus got screwed.

EXACTLY, and the winner of the extra round was Kraus

Kraus was definetly screwed

[MMA.Revolution]

Kraus got screwed, and i know he didnt resign his contract with K-1 after his fight, he stormed out of the building right after

[I'm Spartacus]

Originally Posted by BrikkCity

But here's the best one:

If Kraus were to stand on his hands with his legs in the air, would kicks to his arms count as points? And would high kicks to his legs not count because they were blocking his body?

Probably. If Kraus got kicked hard enough that he could no longer stand on his hands, then he'd be counted out and KOed. That's visible damage. If he blocked body kicks with his legs then they wouldn't count as points.

Would a kick in the head be considered a low blow?

[I'm Spartacus]

Originally Posted by Michael Wanaka

That's not the way it works. The fighter who wins the extra round wins the fight. The three rounds before don't matter if there's an extra round.

Kraus got screwed.

Exactly. I still don't see how the previous three rounds are suddenly rescored just because the extra was close. That would be an admission that the judges screwed up.

[I'm Spartacus]

Originally Posted by Mpower

Theres a huge gray area here. You can damn well block a kick with your arm but if a kick from a guy like Buakaw actually follows through... was it really blocked?


Ask Frank Shamrock if he blocked Cung Le's middle kicks.

It's not a gray area. If you block a kick and show no visible damage, it's a successful block. If you block and kick then scream in pain and shout "MY ARM! MY ARM!" then it's not a successful block.

[Mpower]

Visible damage? So there has to be a bruse?

[Mpower]

Originally Posted by L3n

No, we don´t "already know", it´s still being discussed and there are no consensus in this matter.

I don´t see why they would favor a Thai fighter either. Remember that Buakaw and Kraus have met before when Kraus won after an extra round. That match was also close and by some considered proof of corrupt judging in Kraus favor. Now it's the other way around, weird huh? Some matches are close and hard to judge, that's all.

Youre saying It wasnt clear who won the first three rounds?