[Mpower]

as already discussed in other threads, we already know Buakaw was screwed in the first 3 rounds of the fight.

But why? Are K-1 as a organization that corrupt?

[yodaman]

The short answer is HELL YES.

Anyone want to do the long one?

[BabiPangang]

Originally Posted by Mpower

as already discussed in other threads, we already know Buakaw was screwed in the first 3 rounds of the fight.

But why? Are K-1 as a organization that corrupt?

People don't understand the K1 rules obviously.

Buakaw was constantly doing the same thing, left middle/high kick on Alberts underarms, but he also scored points throuhg lowkicks and some boxing. The middle/high kicks is a direct hit on Albert's defence and a block and so not considered a point under K1 rules. Albert was making points due lowkicks and also through boxing. Sow the point totals where quite even at the end. And thus a draw was justified completly.

Albert won round 4 because he scored way more points then Buakaw. The jury gave it to Buakaw anyway and that is why Albert was pissed off. He won fair and square but the judges felt otherwise.

The same thing happend with Souwer against Yod, Yod was kicking more but he was not making any points. This is K1 and not Muay Thai.

That's why a lot of Muay Thai purist get angry and scream trash, but you have to understand the rules of the game that is being played.

Compare it to this:
K1 = Soccer , only a goal wen the ball is behind the keeper

Muay Thai = always a goal even if the kepper stops the ball

[Mpower]

Originally Posted by BabiPangang

People don't understand the K1 rules obviously.

Buakaw was constantly doing the same thing, left middle/high kick on Alberts underarms, but he also scored points throuhg lowkicks and some boxing. The middle/high kicks is a direct hit on Albert's defence and a block and so not considered a point under K1 rules. Albert was making points due lowkicks and also through boxing. Sow the point totals where quite even at the end. And thus a draw was justified completly.

Albert won round 4 because he scored way more points then Buakaw. The jury gave it to Buakaw anyway and that is why Albert was pissed off. He won fair and square but the judges felt otherwise.

The same thing happend with Souwer against Yod, Yod was kicking more but he was not making any points. This is K1 and not Muay Thai.

That's why a lot of Muay Thai purist get angry and scream trash, but you have to understand the rules of the game that is being played.

Compare it to this:
K1 = Soccer , only a goal wen the ball is behind the keeper

Muay Thai = always a goal even if the kepper stops the ball

Theres a huge gray area here. You can damn well block a kick with your arm but if a kick from a guy like Buakaw actually follows through... was it really blocked?


Ask Frank Shamrock if he blocked Cung Le's middle kicks.

Anyway.. we know about the "4th" round but it was very close. the point of this thread is to discuss why on earth a credible organization like K-1 would ask for a extra round after such a one sided performance.

[Kaminoko]

Originally Posted by BabiPangang

People don't understand the K1 rules obviously.

Buakaw was constantly doing the same thing, left middle/high kick on Alberts underarms, but he also scored points throuhg lowkicks and some boxing. The middle/high kicks is a direct hit on Albert's defence and a block and so not considered a point under K1 rules. Albert was making points due lowkicks and also through boxing. Sow the point totals where quite even at the end. And thus a draw was justified completly.

Albert won round 4 because he scored way more points then Buakaw. The jury gave it to Buakaw anyway and that is why Albert was pissed off. He won fair and square but the judges felt otherwise.

The same thing happend with Souwer against Yod, Yod was kicking more but he was not making any points. This is K1 and not Muay Thai.

That's why a lot of Muay Thai purist get angry and scream trash, but you have to understand the rules of the game that is being played.

Compare it to this:
K1 = Soccer , only a goal wen the ball is behind the keeper

Muay Thai = always a goal even if the kepper stops the ball

dude you make it sound that all buakaw's middle kicks were on the block. well NOT
Now in the extra round, buakaw scored well, with knees,lowkicks,middle and combo's while kraus did also, p.s not all of kraus punches landed....A punch that land on buakaw's gloves is not a point....The extra round was close no one dominated so the judges bases there descision on the previous 3 rounds which buakaw obviously was the one who got the advantage.

[CPH]

Originally Posted by BabiPangang

Compare it to this:
K1 = Soccer , only a goal wen the ball is behind the keeper

Muay Thai = always a goal even if the kepper stops the ball

Your comparison is absurd.
But here's a better one:

MT = Scoring hard kicks to the arms and scoring hard kicks to the legs.

K1 = Not scoring hard kicks to the arms but for some reason, scoring hard kicks to the legs.

Seriously, K-1 should just outlaw low-kicks and then their rules would make some kind of sense...

But regardless of that, there was no draw after 3 rounds - Buakaw was (once again) sent into the extra round for no reason at all.

[L3n]

Originally Posted by Mpower

as already discussed in other threads, we already know Buakaw was screwed in the first 3 rounds of the fight.

But why? Are K-1 as a organization that corrupt?

No, we don´t "already know", it´s still being discussed and there are no consensus in this matter.

I don´t see why they would favor a Thai fighter either. Remember that Buakaw and Kraus have met before when Kraus won after an extra round. That match was also close and by some considered proof of corrupt judging in Kraus favor. Now it's the other way around, weird huh? Some matches are close and hard to judge, that's all.

[journeyman]

Originally Posted by Kaminoko

dude you make it sound that all buakaw's middle kicks were on the block. well NOT
Now in the extra round, buakaw scored well, with knees,lowkicks,middle and combo's while kraus did also, p.s not all of kraus punches landed....A punch that land on buakaw's gloves is not a point....The extra round was close no one dominated so the judges bases there descision on the previous 3 rounds which buakaw obviously was the one who got the advantage.

The correct answer

[TsukinoKage]

I think Buakaw wins the record for "most unneccessary extra rounds".

[randomguy]

Originally Posted by TsukinoKage

I think Buakaw wins the record for "most unneccessary extra rounds".

hahaha thats true