I don't know if anyone knows their muay thai well, but

Maroli · 04-09-2006, 10:11 PM

What from of Muay Boran does Tony Jaa practise? Since he's from Surin I'd assume it was some form of Muay Paak Eesan, but does anyone know for sure? Are there any nak-muay boran compete in any ring competition?

meng_mao · 04-09-2006, 10:47 PM

I thought it was Muay Chaiya, given all the joint locks he does in Tom Yum Goong.

Rich_aka_Wig · 04-10-2006, 09:44 AM

(^_^;) I always thought there was just Muay Thai as it is today and Muay Boran is an older form that is "exclusively" taught today.

Do either of you two (or anyone else) know a good site with more info Muay Boran?

meng_mao · 04-10-2006, 12:09 PM

This is your one-stop shop: http://ancientmuaythai.com/

Maroli · 04-10-2006, 05:05 PM

Well, here is a brief muddled history of it all. Muay Thai Boran originated from Ling Lom, literally tanslated as air-monkey (cool, huh?). There were many many regional variations of Muay Boran like Muay Lopburi, Muay Chaiya, Muay Paak Nuua, Muay Paak Eesaan, Muay Korat, and many other styles that have eventually died out. I don't think Tony Jaa does Muay Chaiya because of the way he switches stance....Muay Chaiya is very smooth with their footwork, switching back and forth seamlessly....he more brings his whole leg around and stamps it down.

FYI The Muay thai we know as a sport is vastly different from Muay Boran...Muay Boran is much more dangerous...its a pity it's not well exposed. I think Kit Cope in the UFC did Muay Boran, but I saw the once a year competition between Thailand and Burma where he participated and the style, although bare-knuckled, didn't seem too different from Muay Thai Veetee (stadium Muay Thai). It's really hard to find a school of actual Muay Boran, a lot of schools claim they teach it, but its just normal Muay Thai, with some flashy stuff thrown in.

Rich_aka_Wig · 04-10-2006, 06:50 PM

Thanks for the info 'Maroli'. And you too 'meng_mao' - have bookmarked the site and will check it in full tomorrow.

I think Muay Boran's exposure is linked to it's rarity though. I can't remember exactly, but I'm sure I've read that the Thais will only teach it to other Thais.

**Matt** · 04-10-2006, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by meng_mao

This is your one-stop shop: http://ancientmuaythai.com/

Nice site - very informative. Thanks for the link.

Razor Bump · 04-11-2006, 01:00 AM

If someone in Thailand will make a new version of the Chupasart (the book created by "The Black King" who fought the Burmese) I'm sure we would start to see an older form of Muay Thai with some moves we have not seen in a while. Not only that the old Thai Kata's will come back into play for solo practice.

chlorox · 04-11-2006, 09:02 AM

I find it ironic that after all these years of proven standup dominance, Muay Thai is now becoming popular because of its portrayal in a MOVIE by a gymnast. Tony Jaa is incredible, but if you are looking to be like him, gymanistics is your cup of tea in my humble opinion.

Maroli · 04-11-2006, 12:24 PM

Yes, a lot of what Tony Jaa does is gymnastics, but his Muay Boran is very advanced as well. Don't get me wrong, in any given situation Muay Boran is more effective than stadium Muay Thai, which we already consider the pinnacle of stand up