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06-27-2009, 12:32 PM
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Oke then I guess were more at the same wavelength then I thought. My apologies if I offended you but I hope you understand how I interpreted your post and where I'm coming from. It's not my intention to offend anyone; which is pretty rare sometimes on Sherdog.
Guess I've seen too much fighter bashing and other nonsense on Sherdog than is good for me maybe lol
(consider this my peace pipe offer lol ;) )
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06-27-2009, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Jofeljoh!
Oke then I guess were more at the same wavelength then I thought. My apologies if I offended you but I hope you understand how I interpreted your post and where I'm coming from. It's not my intention to offend anyone; which is pretty rare sometimes on Sherdog.
Guess I've seen too much fighter bashing and other nonsense on Sherdog than is good for me maybe lol
(consider this my peace pipe offer lol ;) )
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It's all cool, since I usually come off pretty strong in how I write. But cha, all is well.
I hope to see a Corbett/Spong rematch, hopefully under Full Thai. That'd be fireworks. (if they get a decent referee this time)
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06-27-2009, 02:50 PM
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Man,
It's a shame a high profiled match like this ends in this manner, but I think we can all agree on one thing...... REMATCH!
Based on the footage Ham Roll gave us (thanks HR) IMO it's justified to say Carnage won. Wether he is the better fighter, we'll have too see. Remember the old days in k-1, everyone was knocking each other out.. So based on the info on this forum this fight could have gone the other way. I wanna see the whole fight btw, I hate it when I can't see it!
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06-27-2009, 04:20 PM
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It's a real shame the fight ended like it did. Hopefully they can put a rematch together sometime down the road.
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06-27-2009, 05:22 PM
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I loved Mike the Hammer commentating
As for Carnage, I believe it was totally understandable on what happened. Personally, Nathan seems like a well spoken well mannered man and it's clear he wouldnt do this. I was fairly dissapointed in the contest and agree that I would like to see a rematch under full rules muay thai. Tyrone knows he got KO'ed under his own rules, it's only fair to make the next fight with elbows.
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06-27-2009, 06:31 PM
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Carnage should definitely demand full Thai rules, and nothing else, if/when a rematch is offered. After all, he acquiesced to Spong's management to get the original fight going.
The referee isn't American, although he has lived in America for a while. It's Paulo Tocha, who has been in a few Van Damme movies (Most would remember him as the muay thai stylist, "Paco", in Bloodsport).
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06-27-2009, 06:50 PM
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I think there's some justice in this anyway, if Spong has hurt his hand. If he'd fought full Thai, he would have had 2 more weapons at his disposal.
What happened to the Champions of old? Ever seen pics of Jeff Fenech's hands following a title fight? Tough dude...
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06-27-2009, 06:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MSieur Le Bossu
Carnage should definitely demand full Thai rules, and nothing else, if/when a rematch is offered. After all, he acquiesced to Spong's management to get the original fight going.
The referee isn't American, although he has lived in America for a while. It's Paulo Tocha, who has been in a few Van Damme movies (Most would remember him as the muay thai stylist, "Paco", in Bloodsport).
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Was Paulo Tocha the ref for this fight? I remember with one of the earlier fights seeing a ref with hair when they announced Paulo Tocha as the ref, and then during the replay for the Spong vs. Carnage fight it was some bald dude so I assumed it was the other American guy, Finnerty? Anyway, only got to see the replay so I could be wrong...
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06-27-2009, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by martijn
Man,
It's a shame a high profiled match like this ends in this manner, but I think we can all agree on one thing...... REMATCH!
Based on the footage Ham Roll gave us (thanks HR) IMO it's justified to say Carnage won. Wether he is the better fighter, we'll have too see. Remember the old days in k-1, everyone was knocking each other out.. So based on the info on this forum this fight could have gone the other way. I wanna see the whole fight btw, I hate it when I can't see it!
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Carnage is the better fighter simply because he knocked Spong out.
As i said before they are very close and if they fought 10 times you could really only predict them to win 5 a piece. I would like a rematch no because i think there controversey on who this fight because it is clear Carnage won.
But because they are both the best two fighters around that weight.
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06-27-2009, 10:25 PM
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I think it's too simple to say that Corbett is the better fighter -in general- because he won this fight on KO. Nothing to take away from his victory or his qualities. Also I don't consider this a fluke win or anything.
Fighters lose sometimes, and sometimes on KO. Spong got KO'ed by Zeyada but I think there aren't many people here who consider Zeyada the better fighter. Hoost got KO'ed twice by Sapp but there is no way there's any fight fan who truly believes Sapp the better fighter. He got his number but that's all you can say.
I'm not saying Spong is the better fighter. But I also cannot say based on this fight alone that Corbett is the better fighter. In this fight yes. But as you said yourself, it could well end in 5-5 if they fought 10 times.
Corbett is ahead. But I would wait the rematch before calling him the better fighter.
It's also what people's opinions are what makes you the better fighter- is it all about the result? A fighter can be pounded and outclassed all 5 rounds but manage to get a punch in the last round for the KO win. Does that automatically makes him the better fighter? I don't know. Personally I don't believe it, but others might do and for both arguments there's something to say.
I'm very disappointed by the way things go about this fight and I'm very curious about the rematch. By the way, I don't think many addressed this, but the rematch might be a problem - where now, under what rules. I do agree with most of the people in this thread: Spong doesn't have a lot to demand here, but it might end up as a problem. I wonder if the rematch does happen, because in the heat of the moment every fighter agrees there with a rematch. But there are more factors of course.
But let's hope it does happen. Personally I won't care what rules. Make it full MT, and make it happen in Australia as far as I'm considered.
It just has to happen 
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