Official Professional Wrestling Discussion V - Page 770

**BrooklynBomber** · 05-13-2008, 12:32 AM

Jeff Hardy sucks, and thats a fact.

punkmother · 05-13-2008, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Saku4me

Umm, no. Hardy is more over than any of the other high midcard guys, even more over than former ECW champions CM Punk, Chavo Guerrero, and current Champ, Kane. As much as we may dislike Hardy, I can admit that Hardy is one who connects with the majority of the fans and they love him. He will get over even if the WWE isn't pushing him...that's just how it works.

And Umaga losing to Jeff Hardy won't hurt that much especially since Umaga dominated the entire match until Hardy's whisper in the wind, which Umaga kicked out of just a second too late. That's not damaging to him. It's not like Hardy dominated Umaga and made him look bad. It looks as if Jeff got lucky and snuck away with a quick win.

The hate on Hardy is getting somewhat ridiculous. Yes, the guy is a fuck-up and is into drugs but so are most wrestlers. Everyone in the 80s and 70s were doing it way worse than Hardy so the hate is unjustified. Yes, he's a spot monkey without much psychology but he gets sympathy from the fans and that's pretty much all the matters. That's why Jeff will always be more over with the fans than Matt and the same reason is why he'll always have a job in the wrestling business, especially with the WWE. He has paid his dues, no doubt.

if hardy were disappeared tomorrow, fans would find somebody else they like. thats just how it is. sure they may go, 'man hardy was cool.' he isn't but they would say that. regardless, they would get over it and move on. rvd is pretty much forgotten at this point isn't he?

Saku4me · 05-13-2008, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by punkmother

if hardy were disappeared tomorrow, fans would find somebody else they like. thats just how it is. sure they may go, 'man hardy was cool.' he isn't but they would say that. regardless, they would get over it and move on. rvd is pretty much forgotten at this point isn't he?

That's the thing. The same thing will be said about practically any wrestler, even Flair. He's gone now and we all move on, but when Flair is in the ring, he is over and that's the point. The WWE probably won't let him go unless he does something really bad because he's over and being over with the fan is something that many wrestlers are never able to do.

sylaxRKO · 05-13-2008, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Saku4me

The hate on Hardy is getting somewhat ridiculous. Yes, the guy is a fuck-up and is into drugs but so are most wrestlers. Everyone in the 80s and 70s were doing it way worse than Hardy so the hate is unjustified. Yes, he's a spot monkey without much psychology but he gets sympathy from the fans and that's pretty much all the matters. That's why Jeff will always be more over with the fans than Matt and the same reason is why he'll always have a job in the wrestling business, especially with the WWE. He has paid his dues, no doubt.

Bottom line, he gets over and that's a fact. If you hate him, simply change the channel when he comes on tv...it's that simple. That's what I sometimes do whenever I do tune into the WWE (rarely these days).

With all things you said saku, I cant believe that was pro-Hardy post....LOL!!!

Saku4me · 05-13-2008, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by sylaxRKO

With all things you said saku, I cant believe that was pro-Hardy post....LOL!!!

Lol, I know. Thing is, I don't hate Jeff Hardy at all, but I don't think he's a very good wrestler. He is a complete idiot for blowing all his chances, much like RVD getting caught with weed while he was champ, but he's still here. He lacks alot of psychology and reasoning behind his work but I can acknowledge that he is way over with the fans and unless Hardy wants to leave, the WWE will keep him as long as he wants to stay. He's better than the likes of the Ultimate Warrior (who I loved as a kid) but if you're over, you get pushed and that's just the way things work.

punkmother · 05-13-2008, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Saku4me

Bottom line, he gets over and that's a fact. If you hate him, simply change the channel when he comes on tv...it's that simple. That's what I sometimes do whenever I do tune into the WWE (rarely these days).

you mean i can legally change the channel on my television set? don't be a dickwad and lecture people. i don't even watch wrestling because it is literally the stupidest thing on tv, outside of the hills. and i don't say that because it's wrestling, i say that because it is absolute shit these days. that, and i don't have cable.

sylaxRKO · 05-13-2008, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Saku4me

Lol, I know. Thing is, I don't hate Jeff Hardy at all, but I don't think he's a very good wrestler. He lacks alot of psychology and reasoning behind his work but I can acknowledge that he is way over with the fans and unless Hardy wants to leave, the WWE will keep him as long as he wants to stay. He's better than the likes of the Ultimate Warrior (who I loved as a kid) but if you're over, you get pushed and that's just the way things work.

This is true but, if you suck I will hate on you that's just the way things work. No one goes on a crusade for any of the other guys we trash I was just wondering why stick up for Hardy.

punkmother · 05-13-2008, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by sylaxRKO

This is true but, if you suck I will hate on you that's just the way things work. No one goes on a crusade for any of the other guys we trash I was just wondering why stick up for Hardy.

have you seen how he shaves his beard? its fucking cool.

Saku4me · 05-13-2008, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by punkmother

you mean i can legally change the channel on my television set? don't be a dickwad and lecture people. i don't even watch wrestling because it is literally the stupidest thing on tv, outside of the hills. and i don't say that because it's wrestling, i say that because it is absolute shit these days.

It is shit these days. You're always complaining about how much Hardy sucks, all I'm saying is don't watch him so you don't have to complain. It gets ridiculous when all people do is bitch and moan...just don't watch it so you won't have to bitch and moan.

I don't even watch wrestling anymore. Tonight was the first night I actually tuned in and I didn't even finish it. I haven't watched a full WWE Raw or SD in over 2 years but I still keep up with it through WON and by posting here. Wrestling is crap these days, no doubt and that's the reason why I've watched less than 4 hours of WWE tv programming this whole year. I'm not into pro wrestling like I used to be and for that reason, I've pretty much stopped watching the WWE but you don't see me posting "WWE sucks"...I save that for the losers at the HWs.

flowwiththego · 05-13-2008, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by sylaxRKO

This is true but, if you suck I will hate on you that's just the way things work. No one goes on a crusade for any of the other guys we trash I was just wondering why stick up for Hardy.

(Takes his Crusader sheild with a Ric Flair mural on it and flings it at sylax.)