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Old 07-03-2009, 02:43 AM   #171 (permalink)

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By that logic any major pro sport income is dwarfed also as they're not receiving PPV dollars either.

I'm not sure if we know what sort of income was resulting from one of the major Pride events. ~27 million viewers on primetime TV for an event that's probably twice as long as the typical American PPV. At that point you're not really comparing Pride with UFC anymore. What do comparable sporting events pull in for ad revenue for that sort of event? What did Fuji pay them for the rights to broadcast? Aside from direct ad revenue, what residuals are gained by the simple fact that you have 27x as many people seeing your product?
I see your point but the difference is that any single game of a pro sport would probably generate less revenue than a UFC pay per view, but major sports play multiple games per month of not multiple per week. Aside from the odd boxing ppv i would say that the UFC brings in the most revenue per event. Either way though it doesn't really matter, I was talking MMA events only.

Judging roughly by what a superbowl add sells for i still don't think that any Pride events matched what a UFC event brings in. The one area i am guessing on is actual gate revenue from Pride events. 90,000 x 10 bucks isn't that spectacular compared to 11,000 x 200 bucks. Those are obviously rough numbers only intended to illustrate my point. I am sure some posters here would know the gates of some of the Pride events.

Anyway, i would say adding up revenue+historical significance+card value+number of people watching+mainstream media coverage that this is probably the biggest event in MMA history. Or at least close enough that it can be hyped that way.
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Old 07-03-2009, 03:08 AM   #172 (permalink)
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It is the biggest MMA event as of now, but ever...only time will tell.
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Old 07-03-2009, 03:10 AM   #173 (permalink)

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It easy to understand why the UFC is hyping it's own event with speculatory language prior to ticket sales, but I can't comprehend what John Anik and Franklin McNeil are doing already calling UFC 100 "the biggest event in MMA history" prior to a final tally on ticket sales or even 1 PPV buy.

This is biased reporting, and there is no other conclusion. Nobody knows at all whether this will be the biggest event in history at this point. The Pride stadiums had a far greater capacity, as they used the Coliseum, I believe, which has a 92000-seat capacity.

The UFC opted for the Mandalay Bay Events Center which only accommodates approximately 11,000 spectators instead of the venue's sister property, the 14,700-capacity MGM Grand Garden Arena, where UFC 98 was held.

Why would they do that if this is the biggest event in MMA history as ESPN is now declaring in the latest MMA Live?
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Old 07-03-2009, 03:16 AM   #174 (permalink)

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The actual biggest is probably Yoshida Vs. Ogawa.
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Old 07-03-2009, 04:00 AM   #175 (permalink)

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Well let's think about the logic of using Pride events in the past.

1. gate means nothing.
2. Was on free tv in Japan.
3. Was not a landmark event.

UFC 100 is a very significant event. Over 100 UFC events this one just happens to be named 100. Sold out in a hour or so (if I remember correctly) will more than likely smash all PPV records stateside for an MMA event. It has one of the most staked cards (main card) in recent history. 2 huge title fights that most MMA fans are pumped about. Plenty of build up and hype.

I can also assure you that if they picked a 100k capacity arena it would have sold out. With an event like this I can imagine 95,000 people shelling out 50 bucks to watch it in person. They should have held it at a football stadium. Gen admission 50 bucks FTW!
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