Why do people "Hate" on Judo? - Page 17

**Q mystic** · 10-07-2006, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by S. Carter

i wouldn't say infinitely. in their purest forms both are pretty hard to watch. but, judo throws are more attractive.

Agreed. Most of the watching with excitement comes after the 'OOOOOO's' at comps.

What did I miss? Damn. Occaisionally we catch a HL.

S L A M · 10-07-2006, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Q mystic

Ed 'the strangler' Lewis on judo,

http://judoforum.com/index.php?showt...99&hl=ed+lewis

'there's a has been much said that an american wrestler will beat a japanese anytime--thats just alot of hooey.'

err something like that.

Ever heard of Ad Santel?

**Q mystic** · 10-07-2006, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by S L A M

LiverShot, a Lateral is not an over under hip throw.

Tru dat. And another huge one is the head and arm vs Koshiguruma. Many think it is the same. And the japanese whizzer and ippon seoi are way diff as well.

Many think the same but it is many times the stance/positioning, the grip of gi, and the scores invloved which is what make them so different. Of course, the dynamics.

**Q mystic** · 10-07-2006, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by S L A M

Ever heard of Ad Santel?

Yes I have. What about Fedor Emelianenko?

I just thru that in there with Ed Lewis. Not too interested in history as compared to much to evidential present.

Sub Master88 · 10-07-2006, 04:25 PM

Judo is an affestive art. Judo was the first martial art I traind in. I think its more effective than wrestling. While in high school I nocked the wind out of a wrestler with a judo through.

**Q mystic** · 10-07-2006, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sub Master88

Judo is an affestive art. Judo was the first martial art I traind in. I think its more effective than wrestling. While in high school I nocked the wind out of a wrestler with a judo through.

1st post?

Welcome my judo flippin friend.

S. Carter · 10-07-2006, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Fareal

Ps. wtf is karate doing in the striking? ;)

i think karate gets an honorable mention because it can teach you how to focus your energy/harness chi into a very powerful punch. chuck is from kempo - i don't think it is a coincidence that he ktfo's almost everyone he fights. bas has always given credit to his kyokushin background. lyoto machida (who is this guy?) is karate/bjj. many kickboxers have karate backgrounds. st. pierre's spinning back kick on hughes is courtesy of his karate background.

all-in-all i think karate has a place in mma. it may not be the first consideration for a primary striking art. but, there are some techniques that can be more applicable to mma than other tma's.

glebster_inc · 10-07-2006, 04:42 PM

Judo is too hard, u can't pool a submission if u don't master it, pros judo is very entertaining but my self i never got to that level where i am a wizard u can say, I am far from a wizard but i am with wizard with my right cross.

S. Carter · 10-07-2006, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Q mystic

Agreed. Most of the watching with excitement comes after the 'OOOOOO's' at comps.

What did I miss? Damn. Occaisionally we catch a HL.

Q, why don't you enlighten us some as to why you think judo is the best base for mma?

**Q mystic** · 10-07-2006, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by glebster_inc

Judo is too hard, u can't pool a submission if u don't master it, pros judo is very entertaining but my self i never got to that level where i am a wizard u can say, I am far from a wizard but i am with wizard with my right cross.

What do you mean?

Pavel is as good or better at the straight armbar as any bjjer. Just doesn't have as many other options with it(maybe its not that efficient to learn them anyway with a strong top control????). Strong fast basics should not be underestimated. Especially in mma.