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Old 09-04-2006, 01:46 AM   #21 (permalink)
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no one would be able to. too good of a bjj practitioner..too good of a defense and knowledge of subs...only decisions can defeat this guy imo..
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Old 09-04-2006, 01:46 AM   #22 (permalink)
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that was sarcasm by the way. sum cant catch it. anywayz......

Diaz is a beast. i think the only way u can beat him is by decision nowadayz. Agree?
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I know there are plent of people who hate him, and I know there are plenty of people who could beat him, but who could submit Nick? I think the closest would have to be BJ Penn. An argument could be made for Matt Hughes, but I don't think he'd go quite as easily as Riggs did. Remember SUBMIT, not beat.
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I would say BJ has a good chance.But I don't think so.

I think the next question is who could finish Diaz?
My answer is GSP via strikes.
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Well is Royce considered a UFC WW? Not sure if he'd beat Nick, but it's well in his ability to sub Diaz imo.
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Diaz is a beast. i think the only way u can beat him is by decision nowadayz. Agree?
Yeah I agree, but he's only fought children of priveledge. Hughes would put him away. GSP by decision. Great fights either way though.
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But the opportunity wouldn't present itself. Except for his first fight when he was 18, Nick has been extremely hard to finish. They could beat him sure, with GnP of course, but submission wouldn't work. Could you actually picture Nick tapping? I can't, except to BJ by RNC.
i don't even think they could do it with gnp, being as nick is so slippery and slick and hard to control on the ground
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Well is Royce considered a UFC WW? Not sure if he'd beat Nick, but it's well in his ability to sub Diaz imo.
Royce would lose to strikes. He would not be able to take it down. IMO
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But the opportunity wouldn't present itself. Except for his first fight when he was 18, Nick has been extremely hard to finish. They could beat him sure, with GnP of course, but submission wouldn't work. Could you actually picture Nick tapping? I can't, except to BJ by RNC.

BJ could do it for sure, and you're right the opportunity probably wouldn;t present itself, but if in the small chance it did, I think Hughes and GSP could capitalize. I mean yeah Diaz is good on the ground, but he isn't immune to submissions. IF he was fighting GSP or Hughes he might underestimate their ability to submit him because it isn't their normal way of finishing a fight and leave himself open for sub. Truthfully, it's all a bunch of shoulda, coulda, woulda's, but I just personally think BJ isn't the only guy in the weight class that could submit diaz.
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Royce would lose to strikes. He would not be able to take it down. IMO

Agreed, but the potential is there if it did go to the ground. The question is could sub Diaz, not would. Splitting hairs a bit I know.
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