What needs to be changed about judging ?

[Carl25]

1. Submission attempts should count as points. Not weak shit, if you manage to lock in a sub but can't get the tap. It should count. Watch the curran mizugaki fight if you want to see what i mean. Hell even curran vs henderson

2. Leg kicks should count as points, but imo not as much punches, takedowns

3. LNP. Honestly i think if a takedown result in lnp. I don't think any points should be awarded, like jake shields/mayhem

can't think of anything else right now.

[crowded]

Leg kicks should be less than takedowns? If a fighter gets kicked repetitively vs. taken down repetitively which do you think will cause him to give up first? Since ju-jitsu works well from the guard and off
the back I don't see takedowns as worth much of anything myself. Without strikes or submissions it's more of a neutral position, which equals a draw in my mind.

Maybe we just get rid of judges and have more draws.

[ninjutsu]

Originally Posted by Carl25

1. Submission attempts should count as points. Not weak shit, if you manage to lock in a sub but can't get the tap. It should count. Watch the curran mizugaki fight if you want to see what i mean. Hell even curran vs henderson

2. Leg kicks should count as points, but imo not as much punches, takedowns

3. LNP. Honestly i think if a takedown result in lnp. I don't think any points should be awarded, like jake shields/mayhem

can't think of anything else right now.

Let the Ref have some say in the outcome....he see's everything in there

[johnnyhman]

How about half points for near finishes at the end of rounds?

If a fighter won the round and almost finishes his opponent at the end but the round ends, score it 10-8.5. If it's the other way around, like the fighter who lost the round has a legit near submission to close out the round, score it 10-9.5.

[Thy]

get rid of lame judges and get ones who love mma.

then make it an unlimited point system so it clearly syas who won the fight not who won rounds.

[EvenFlow]

1) Judges need to start watching the moniters more than the ring. I cant believe judges dont watch the moniter like the commentators usually do. If the argument is that they have different angles and dont see certain punches/kicks or the damage sometimes. They just watch the screen and you can see what happens 95% of the time like the rest of us watching.

2) Get rid of the 10 point must, I know it becomes scattered but scoring a fight as a whole is the only real solution honestly. If a guy is winning the standup for lets say 3 minutes then the other guy gets a takedown and keeps him down for 2, does the guy who was on top with even tho he was dominant less? dosnt make sense to me.

[CompletelyFeral]

Making sure Cecil Peoples isn't one?

[EvenFlow]

Originally Posted by CompletelyFeral

Making sure Cecil Peoples isn't one?

i like it

[Anjohl]

Originally Posted by Carl25

1. Submission attempts should count as points. Not weak shit, if you manage to lock in a sub but can't get the tap. It should count. Watch the curran mizugaki fight if you want to see what i mean. Hell even curran vs henderson

2. Leg kicks should count as points, but imo not as much punches, takedowns

3. LNP. Honestly i think if a takedown result in lnp. I don't think any points should be awarded, like jake shields/mayhem

can't think of anything else right now.

No, if anything, a submission attempt should be completely negated by a submission escape, UNLESS the submission escape puts the attacking fighter in a dominant position.

IE, if a fighter in guard-bottom uses a failed armbar attempt to get to their feet, it should be a positive score for the fighter attempting the armbar.

But, if you try to armbar from mount, and end up in halfguard, or swept, the armbar escape should score for the defender.

[MarcusA]

Originally Posted by CompletelyFeral

Making sure Cecil Peoples isn't one?

This should be rule number one.