What if Sherk finishes Penn? - Page 5

JDGZ · 05-16-2008, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by positivebalance

I say this is pretty much every BJ fight: If BJ fights his best, he'll win, doesn't matter if it's GSP or whoever, when he's at his best, he's the best in the world.

Yeah, and? Why are you gonna support him then? He has the potential to be the be all end all of MMA fighters, but he doesn't care. That's a slap in the face to you. It's like waiting for the Old Vitor. You keep thinking ''maybe this time he'll be in shape...'' and then he disappoints you again. Then you go make excuses for him. It's a vicious circle.

Care to rebut?

**positivebalance** · 05-16-2008, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by War Wagon

Haha well hopefully it doesn't come to that. Best case scenario is Sean Sherk winning in any way possible!

yeah

Whether you are a BJ fan or a Sherk fan, whether you think one will win or the other, fuck it, it's a great fight! I'll be there and am really looking forward to it.

**positivebalance** · 05-16-2008, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JDGZ

Yeah, and? Why are you gonna support him then? He has the potential to be the be all end all of MMA fighters, but he doesn't care. That's a slap in the face to you. It's like waiting for the Old Vitor. You keep thinking ''maybe this time he'll be in shape...'' and then he disappoints you again. Then you go make excuses for him. It's a vicious circle.

Care to rebut?

My only rebuttal is that it's really misinformed to compare the Scott Ferrozo Killer to the guy who has multiple weight class championships. His motivations remain to be seen.

Huge_Right_Hand · 05-16-2008, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Boss

BJ Penn has only been finished by only one person, Matt Hughes in his entire career. Some folks say it was a rightful beatdown, other people say that Penn got hurt which allowed Hughes to finish him.

People make fun of Sherk and call him the "Muscle Blanket" or other names, however he has 32 wins, 9 which are TKO's, 12 submissions, and 11 decisions, which means 21 of his wins are fights which he finished. (Who his opponents were might come under questions to some people.) But his finishes are greater then his decisions.

This fight is so great because it is so hard to call. If it goes 3 rounds or less, I see Penn taking it. But 3 or more rounds, I see Sherk winning it.

Sherk has two ways to win, one is grinding out a 5 round decision (I don't like his plan of grinding on people for 5 rounds, why doesn't he just try to finish people earlier?) or tire Penn out (which is realistically something he might be able to do) and finish BJ while Penn is exhausted.

I think this board would go nuts if Sherk finished Penn.

I believe that the longer it goes, the worse it will be for Penn. I think if it is 3 rounds or less, Penn will win, I think he will stun Sherk with strike and then get a submission on him. I don't see him catching Sherk in a submission otherwise. Sherk also has a great chin. If it goes 3 rounds or more, I see Sherk taking it. More then likely by decision. I don't see him finishing Penn, but you never know, I never thought Gonzaga would KO Cro Cop either.

Sherk has never finished a top 10 opponent. Period. End of Thread, I volunteer to be banned if Sherk finishes Penn

BOXINGMMAFREAK · 05-16-2008, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by positivebalance

Nobody has ever GnP'd an exhausted Penn before, he's fought better fighters...so why is Sherk likely to?

when was the last time bj went to the 5th round? i think sherk is going to come out faster than we have ever seen him. he wants to prove him self, and he wants to shut bj up. i can see sherk stoping bj in the 5th round. i thinks the fight is 50/50

War Wagon · 05-16-2008, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by positivebalance

yeah

Whether you are a BJ fan or a Sherk fan, whether you think one will win or the other, fuck it, it's a great fight! I'll be there and am really looking forward to it.

Oh no doubt about it, it's gonna be the fight of the year as far as I'm concerned. Wish I was going to it but I'll be watching from my couch.

**facedancer** · 05-16-2008, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BOXINGMMAFREAK

when was the last time bj went to the 5th round? i think sherk is going to come out faster than we have ever seen him. he wants to prove him self, and he wants to shut bj up. i can see sherk stoping bj in the 5th round. i thinks the fight is 50/50

I can guarantee the last time he went to the fifth round he wasn't training half as diligently as he is now...but he got there none the less.

FBlue · 05-16-2008, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cool2007

He couldn't even finish Kenflo or Franca on roids ...

What he said....

mickdawgx81 · 05-16-2008, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DaSpyder

Didn't Hughes do it the second time?

with that said - I'm pulling for BJ to finish him and Sherk is no Hughes

it'd be nearly impossible or shocking if PENN were the one to win a decision lol

Go to MMAWeekly for proof of the rib injury.

peteyandjia · 05-16-2008, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RJ43

People are putting too much emphasis on cardio. Yes Sherk has amazing cardio, yes BJ has displayed poor cardio in the past...but cardio is one thing that any fighter can improve on between single fights. I would guess that BJ is training like mad to make sure he is good for 5 rounds after all the shit he's talked.

This is a good point, and one which should be noted.

I would however add one thing you don't mention, namely that there are different levels of both natural ability, and peak potential even when it comes to cardio.

I.e., the ceiling for BJ Penn's cardio, even if reached, might be lower than Sherk's is even on a mediocre day.