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07-10-2006, 11:46 AM
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Wand vs. CC 2 breakdown
I want to start off by saying that I hope this match does NOT go down in the semis because if it does, itll give Barnett and Nog an unfair advantage. Throwing in the two strikers against each other might end up with an injured winner or a not 100% winner.
Second, in a fight between CC and Wand either man could realistically take it. Both men possess the weakness of the other. Lets start off by breaking down CroCops advantages and disadvantages.
CroCop could possibly be a terrible match up for Wand for many reasons, including his excellent straights and his excellent kicks. Wandy might rush in and get smacked with a Left straight down the pipe. Now, for all those who say the same bullshit "O well CC has a weakness for guys who get in his face" pay attention to who has successfully done this.
1- Fedor- CroCop was more worried about Fedor taking him down than Fedor KOing him standing, IMO. CC was afraid to plant his feet and strike because Fedor would trade with him, close the distance and then take him down from the clinch.
2- Hunt- Very few people can do what Hunt did with CC. Why? Because Hunt was willing to take CCs shots and trade with him. How many people do you know would have been able to absorb that punishment and stay in the pocket with CC? Wand may have a good chin but he'd get KOd by a left straight down the pipe or get broken down with kicks to the body, which CC has proven to be effective against Wand's high hand posture.
Also, if I hear one more person say that CC's sprawl wont work against someone who takes down from the clinch, Im going to kill myself. CC avoids the clinch like cancer, as does Chuck. Hell push off and move to the side. Even Yoshi couldnt takedown CC from the clinch, and he had an excellent grip on CCs head for a judo throw and couldnt complete it.
On to Wandy
His advantage over CC is his aggressive nature. As has been mentioned, CC has problems with people who stay in the pocket with him and dont let him circle and counter. Wandy is known for his flurries. He also is known, perhaps not for his iron jaw, as much as for his incredible recovery time. The only person who was able to hurt Wand and finish was the "old" Vitor, and thats because he was able hurt and then swarm in with punches to finish him off. Wand also will not have to worry about CC trying to take him down IMO and that is Wandy's main weakness, his wrestling and TD defense (not his sub defense).
However, one of Wandy's main weakness is the way he moves and defends strikes. Wand likes to walk through people's punches with out any head movement. He is liable to straights, especially counter straights when in his flurries. CroCop has perhaps one of the most lethal straights which he just loves to counter with.
So, IMO, this fight can go either way with either man being able to TKO/KO the other or even take the fight by a judge's decision. What are your thoughts on this fight?
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07-10-2006, 11:57 AM
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No one has anything to contribute? Nothing at all?
And to think I spent all that time typing...
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07-10-2006, 12:00 PM
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Well formulated post.
Olds new though.
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07-10-2006, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SlomiGa
Well formulated post.
Olds new though.
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LoL thank you at least someone posted SOMETHING. HOwever, the reason why I chose to post this is because I have seen a lot of idiotic posts on this site making claims and statements that any person with a brain would never consider typing... wait a minute, this is sherdog... old news though
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07-10-2006, 12:14 PM
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TKO or KO victory for Cro Cop. Finish.
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07-10-2006, 12:18 PM
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Good post. Sums many things up about possible prospects in this potentially second clash of 'em.
Hard to add anything right now, except that I still want to see these two go at it on next round. Otherwise we might not ever see it. It should be more interesting than the first one.
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07-10-2006, 12:19 PM
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Good post. I have nothing constructive to add right now, just thought I'd say I enjoyed reading it.
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07-10-2006, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DeadlyHobo
Good post. I have nothing constructive to add right now, just thought I'd say I enjoyed reading it.
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Thank you. That surprisingly actually did make the typing all worth it
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07-10-2006, 12:29 PM
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Crcocop TKO
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07-10-2006, 12:29 PM
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I agree, I would rather see a barnett cro cop trilogy, but I know one thing tho.......barnett will end up in the finals......and I hope Nog will be standing there across from him. I dont see Wandy beating neither Barnett or Nog, maybe cro cop, but I doubt he will advance to the finals. Cro cops striking has been pretty much predictable and thats prolly why you havent seen no exciting KO's from him in a very long time. I think Randleman kinda put the blueprint out there for other fighters when chuck told him to "stay far away or very close" My pick for this tourney tho will be Minotauro
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