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Old 02-10-2008, 05:37 PM   #31 (permalink)
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It still shocks me to see UFC 61 as having the second highest buys in UFC history. That event was terrible.
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Old 02-10-2008, 05:40 PM   #32 (permalink)

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Then they're fucking morons. He's making 15+ million per PPV and he's getting less than 500k (minus a bonus, if he gets any). They'd lose a lot more money letting him go than paying him 5 mil per fight.
Word. Somehow when Hatton and Mayweather fought on a PPV of 800,000 buys they managed to share about $30 million between them. Paying a main fighter even 2 and a half million on 500,000 buys is ripping them off. Hopefully sometime in the future fighters will be able to move away from the fighting organisation model and more towards the boxing model and get paid properly for their labours.
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Old 02-10-2008, 05:52 PM   #33 (permalink)

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Couture isn't a big draw like everyone thinks is he now?
How is that? Is obvious that he's the UFC's third best draw after Liddell and Ortiz. His PPV's done over 500k buys, and even the third fight with Liddell that did 400k was a huge success back in that day. And don't fool yourself thinking Matt Hughes sold 620k on his drawing power alone.
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Old 02-10-2008, 05:58 PM   #34 (permalink)

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Why don't you just take Zufffa out of your mouth? Jeez, I can't believe anyone who says they are an MMA fan would twist anything in favour of an organisation against fighters. Since when was Randy in UFC 81? I was even generous in leaving out merchandising, etc. And believe me, unless they have a very less favourable arrangement than boxing, they take a lot more than half.
its not a matter of twisting anything, you douche. i love these threads where asshats (like yourself) just make up numbers, and contesting them is somehow "against fighters". lol.

why would you think that randy is getting some sort of special deal? you can see that his buy rates aren't all that fantastic. based on randy's cancelled checks - the ONLY evidence that we have to suggest the rate of PPVs, it is HIGHLY UNLIKELY that there would be ONLY 1/2M of unreported payouts at UFC 81.
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Old 02-10-2008, 06:03 PM   #35 (permalink)

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Then they're fucking morons. He's making 15+ million per PPV and he's getting less than 500k (minus a bonus, if he gets any). They'd lose a lot more money letting him go than paying him 5 mil per fight.
he gets the same PPV sharing that couture did. meltzer reported it in 2006 when he signed his deal, far before the couture bout agreements were public. its no coincidence that they were exactly the same.

because his PPVs were the highest grossing in 2006, he made the most money of any PPV fighter that year (again, as per meltzer who is the general source for this sort of stuff).

so, if randy got $1M for the sylvia fight, tito got around $2M for UFC 66. that ain't to bad. he wants more than that, probably more guaranteed money as they likely don't trust Zuffa's PPV numbers, which they can't verify themselves.
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Old 02-10-2008, 06:08 PM   #36 (permalink)

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I DIDNT DO ANYTHING, I JUST COPIED AND PASTED!


DAMN, STOP BITCHING

Yeah, I get that but... why'd you have to put all those colours and shit in it, and why isn't it in numerical order??


Bunch of fucking clowns I tells ya!!111

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Old 02-10-2008, 06:08 PM   #37 (permalink)

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I really want to see the UFC 81 numbers and how much Brock brought in.
I would too especially considering there were masses on Sherdog who could not get it because Comcast and other cable companies were having problems with pay per view. I believe the thread I saw included people in St. Louis, Alberta, N.C. and South Florida.

I know I could not get it here.

This had to have an impact on the numbers.
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Old 02-10-2008, 06:10 PM   #38 (permalink)

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• UFC 57 - Liddell v. Couture III - 400,000
• UFC 58 - Franklin v. Loiseau - 300,000
• UFC 59 - Ortiz v. Griffin - 425,000
• UFC 60 - Hughes v. Gracie - 620,000
• No June pay-per-view event in 2006
• UFC 61 - Ortiz v. Shamrock II - 775,000
• UFC 62 - Liddell v. Sobral II - 500,000
• UFC 63 - Hughes v. Penn - 400,000
• UFC 64 - Franklin v. Silva - 300,000
• UFC 65 - Hughes v. St. Pierre - 500,000
• UFC 66 - Liddell v. Ortiz - 1,050,000
• UFC 67 - Silva v. Lutter - 400,000
• UFC 68 - Slyvia v. Couture - 540,000
• UFC 69 - St. Pierre v. Serra - 400,000
• UFC 71 - Liddell v. Jackson II - 675,000
• UFC 72 - Franklin v. Okami - 200,000
• UFC 73 - Ortiz v. Evans - 425,000
• UFC 74 - Couture v. Gonzaga - 520,000
• UFC 76 - Liddell v. Jardine - 475,000
• UFC 77 - Franklin v. Silva II - 325,000
• UFC 78 - Evans v. Bisbing - 325,000
• UFC 79 - Liddell v. Silva - 600,000*
= reportedly did 325,000 buys at a minimum
* = MMAPayout.com's projected minimum

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Thanks for organizing that. I cant believe that guy did it like that
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Old 02-10-2008, 06:13 PM   #39 (permalink)

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what's not to understand? they probably just feel like he is asking too much, even for him.
The fact that his headliner almost doubles the average PPV. He gets better buys even when he fights TUF stars than most of the other PPVs. What don't you understand about that. That's a significant spike in money. Compare that to how much more he is asking in salary, and do the math. It's probably worth it to keep him around, if and only if he can compete at a high level.
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Old 02-10-2008, 06:14 PM   #40 (permalink)

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tito is a huge draw
I think Liddell and Shamrock where the 2 biggest draws. Tito isnt as popular as you think
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