[NeCro]

Originally Posted by Mr.pain

Who's talking about enough to retire on?

here are some numbers


$327,000 MLB Minimum per year


NFL Min year

Years Experience Minimum Salary
V
V
0 $285,000
1 $360,000
2 $435,000
3 $510,000
4–6 $595,000
7–9 $720,000
10+ $820,000

NBA MINIMUM SALARIES


Years in NBA
V
V 2005-06 2006-07 2007-08 2008-09 2009-10 2010-11
0 398,762 412,718 427,163 442,114 457,588 473,604
1 641,748 664,209 687,456 711,517 736,420 762,195
2 719,373 744,551 770,610 797,581 825,497 854,389
3 745,248 771,331 798,328 826,269 855,189 885,120
4 771,123 798,112 826,046 854,957 884,881 915,852
5 835,810 865,063 895,341 926,678 959,111 992,680
6 900,498 932,015 964,636 998,398 1,033,342 1,069,509
7 965,185 998,967 1,033,930 1,070,118 1,107,572 1,146,337
8 1,029,873 1,065,918 1,103,225 1,141,838 1,181,803 1,223,166
9 1,035,000 1,071,225 1,108,718 1,147,523 1,187,686 1,229,255
10+ 1,138,500 1,178,348 1,219,590 1,262,275 1,306,455 1,352,181

NHL Min yearly Salary - 330k

UFC 73

Anderson Silva - $90,000 ($45,000 + $45,000 win bonus) def. Nathan
Marquardt - $24,000

Sean Sherk - $28,000 ($14,000 + $14,000 win bonus) def. Hermes Franca - $14,000

Tito Ortiz - $210,000 drew with Rashad Evans - $16,000

Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira - $200,000 ($100,000 + $100,000 win bonus) def.
Heath Herring - $70,000

Kenny Florian - $16,000 ($8,000 + $8,000 win bonus) def. Alvin Robinson - $3,000

Stephan Bonnar - $32,000 ($16,000 + $16,000 win bonus) def. Mike Nickels - $5,000

Chris Lytle - $20,000 ($10,000 + $10,000 win bonus) def. Jason Gilliam - $3,000


Jorge Gurgel - $14,000 ($7,000 + $7,000 win bonus) def. Diego Saraiva - $3,000

Frank Edgar - $10,000 ($5,000 + $5,000 win bonus) def. Mark Bocek - $3,000

Total disclosed payroll: $761,000


I couldent find UFC 74 so I used 73

Lowest paid

4 guys were paid 3K for fighting on the biggest MMA promotion in the world

One of the champions was paid 28K

UFC is Laughing all the way to the bank, and some fans try to Justify it.

Dosent it take alot of courage to get into the Octagon?

and for those of you that are going to talk about bonuses, which one of those 3k guys got bonuses? there are only like 4 fighters in the UFC that get a cut of the ufc PPV. who's getting rich? dana. when did u watch a pride ppv and have commercials for movies? when have u watched a boxing ppv and had a commercial for a movie? when do they interview actors asking about movies in pride or boxing? I Paid to watch MMA not Entertainment tonight


This is an old article but shows you even more how the fighters are getting robbed, its worth the read.
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/...=2373&zoneid=1

You're forgetting that most of those fighters before becoming professional were making 100 dollars to fight. You are starting to see big payments coming in for fighters since MMA is blowing up. As for pointing out sherk's pay, It's his old contract from before he was champion. Also you're forgetting sponsorships and other means of getting paid in MMA. Fighters aren't complaining so you shouldn't either.

[Biggiebrother]

Fighters need a strong union like the Tennis players have. Tennis is a good example of a good business model. Players get the money they deserve but so do the event promoters and the tour. If the ATP tried to pull the same kind of shit Dana does, the player association would go into bat for the player.

[Mr.pain]

Originally Posted by ResidentGoon

Relax, I'm not a UFC nuthugger, so you can ease off the the insults. My priority is seeing the best fight the best for a championship belt.

I said you can be "reasonably" sure UFC fighters are the best -- there are a couple of unsigned guys (like Fedor) but you'd be hard pressed to find many.

You're wrong about what you're saying about unified belts. Mike Tyson is the ONLY guy who did that in the 80s. Jones and Lewis did not unify accross the major 5 orgs.

Do you really want the belt unified every 2 decades?

Proof:

Dude dont try to talk boxing when you are clueless, who considers the IBO?

most Boxing fans go by the ring championship belt its a non profit belt given by the Magazine.

In 2002, The Ring created a championship system that is "intended to reward fighters who, by satisfying rigid criteria, can justify a claim as the true and only world champion in a given weight class." There are only two ways that a boxer can win The Ring's title: defeat the reigning champion or win a box-off between The Ring's number-one and number-two rated contenders (or, sometimes, number-one and number-three rated).[1] There are also only three ways that a boxer can lose The Ring's title: lose a championship fight, move to a different weight class, or retire. (The Ring does not strip its champions' titles like the sanctioning bodies do.)

Boxing title are good for the sport, they make more money having a title. Just like King of the cage has a title, WEC has a title, the difference between the ufc champ and ring champ in boxing. U dont have to fight for the ring org to be considered the champ.

[threat_signal]

dumb article. About as much credibility as a post here. No research really done. All just hearsay and baseless opinions

[Black Gi]

Originally Posted by Mr.pain

Who's talking about enough to retire on?

This is an old article but shows you even more how the fighters are getting robbed, its worth the read.
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/...=2373&zoneid=1

You have made some good points Mr Pain along with some other posters. However I think that some have focused on the minutia of the word monopoly and completely failed to see the big picture.

It is my contention that competition for the UFC in the long term will prove to be a good thing for the consumer and the fighters.

[ResidentGoon]

Originally Posted by Biggiebrother

Fighters need a strong union like the Tennis players have. Tennis is a good example of a good business model. Players get the money they deserve but so do the event promoters and the tour. If the ATP tried to pull the same kind of shit Dana does, the player association would go into bat for the player.

Hmm, I never thought of that.

You're right, tennis has an interesting model.. It's not like UFC and it's not like boxing -- it's all tournaments.

The only problme is that fighters would need lots of recuperation time between stages of a tournament to heal their injuries and broken bones (unlike tennis players), so the tournaments would drag on for months and in the end, you would still have one big tourney.

[Black Gi]

Originally Posted by NeCro

Its amazing some people don't know what a monopoly is. The UFC is not a monopoly. They have competition. Now this low balling fighters deal, If the fighters aren't complaining why are you? They are free to leave and make more money elsewhere (which wont happen since the UFC is paying the most from what I know).

This post is a total contradiction of the article linked.

[ResidentGoon]

Originally Posted by Mr.pain

Dude dont try to talk boxing when you are clueless, who considers the IBO?

most Boxing fans go by the ring championship belt its a non profit belt given by the Magazine.

In 2002, The Ring created a championship system that is "intended to reward fighters who, by satisfying rigid criteria, can justify a claim as the true and only world champion in a given weight class." There are only two ways that a boxer can win The Ring's title: defeat the reigning champion or win a box-off between The Ring's number-one and number-two rated contenders (or, sometimes, number-one and number-three rated).[1] There are also only three ways that a boxer can lose The Ring's title: lose a championship fight, move to a different weight class, or retire. (The Ring does not strip its champions' titles like the sanctioning bodies do.)

Boxing title are good for the sport, they make more money having a title. Just like King of the cage has a title, WEC has a title, the difference between the ufc champ and ring champ in boxing. U dont have to fight for the ring org to be considered the champ.

I know about The Ring and I think it's stupid. I don't think MMA champions should be decided by a group of journalists making up their own rules. Do you trust Sherdog rankings as the de facto list of champions?

Also, you can ignore the IBO if you want. You still can't find another champion that has unified the other 4 titles which was my point to begin with.

[Dogstarman]

Yup just like the NFL, NBA, and MLB have competition to make them honest.

Fighters are going to unionize soon and the UFC will have to respect the fighters rights. It will happen, when it will happen, I don't know but it will or the UFC will start to take better care or their fighters.

[Michaelthebox]

Originally Posted by Mr.pain

Who's talking about enough to retire on?

Over 99% of baseball players make pocket change in the minor leagues, or never make it that far in the first place.

College football weeds out most high school players, then most college players are weeded out by the NFL.

Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

MMA is still a growing sport, and the UFC is spending enormous amounts of money in expanding to new markets, money that is no longer available to pay to the fighters.

If they did spend it on the fighters, they'd have all the elite fighters in the world, instead of paying pocket change to guys who are essentially minor leaguers. Do you really think the Carmello Marrero's of the world are any more valuable than 20 other guys who would kill for a UFC shot? Thats why they are paid nothing, because getting the shot is worth its weight in gold.