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Old 07-27-2006, 08:09 AM   #21 (permalink)
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That depends on what you call mainstream. PrideFC has WAY more viewers. Who's more mainstream?

Because SPike is still not a mainstream channel. It's a channel JUST FOR MEN! Way to go mainstream.

UFC DOES pay shit salaries and does NOT pay 6 figure contracts to TUF winner. REad MY link.
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Old 07-27-2006, 08:10 AM   #22 (permalink)

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Jesus Christ. Not another one. Enough with this already. Why don't you get a couple of your buddies and march around with picket signs in front of Dana's house if you're so concerned.
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Old 07-27-2006, 08:12 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Boxing commission buy-in has been much vaunted as so important for mma but I don't see it that way. Pride are making far more gate than UFC and the fighters are earning far more than UFC as well.

If sanctioning from the athletic and boxing commissions was so great an achievement, wtf is happening to the sport? Clearly, Dana and Zuffa aren't able to see the big picture.

Yeah you can argue that the TUF is a potential entry into the mainstream but if so, why pick SPIKE TV? FOrmally The National Network formally The NAshville Network(Yeehaw). It reeks of sideshow. MMA deserves better.
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Old 07-27-2006, 08:13 AM   #24 (permalink)

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On this I will definatly side with Dana and the UFC. Zuffa has done the unthinkable as far as buisness is concerned. The major fights are on Sportscenter for Christ sakes. As far as Pride "making far more gate" while not being sanctioned??? THEY'RE IN JAPAN YOU FUCKTARD. Why the fuck would they get sanctioned by Nevada?.......ohhh, to have shows in the states!!! They are doing that thanks to Zuffa. If it wasn't for Zuffa they could never get licenses or have shows here.

I don't like Zuffa (or Dana) as buisness people.....but I admire their accoplishments.


If americans can't stomach mma, then I say let them bask in their ignorance. I'll watch the Japanese stuff.
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Spike TV is great, I mean you dont enjoy Knight Rider reruns?

ANd don't forget wall to wall CSI...
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Old 07-27-2006, 08:14 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Is really more the problem with MMA in the U.S.

THe thing is that americans have a huge and enviable wrestling culture. Collegiate wrestling. So it's natural for most of the best athletes in UFC to be wrestling trained. Which makes for excellent takedowns, makes them hard to hurt because wrestlers have no neck and this prevents easy knock-outs. Wrestling is a natural step to MMA in the States.

Here's the problem though. Wrestlers have no real ability to pass the guard and as good as some UFC fighters are at throwing punches while inside the guard, they're seldom show-stoppers. Usually, it's a decision win because they can't or won't advance the action to a better position. The result? A boring fight where a judge decides the winner.

Now, not all UFC fights go this way. Hughes seems to have surpassed this wrestler's rut. So have a few others. But the real excitement is now in stand-up in UFC whereas in Pride it's both on the ground AND standing. Also the yellow card system is great. UFC should adopt one.
The above quote is from a wastelanded thread. Is this your goal in life? To create shitty wasteland worthy threads? Seems like your well on your way to a fufilled life.
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They paid their fighters more because they were bank rolled by the mob.
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Boxing commission buy-in has been much vaunted as so important for mma but I don't see it that way. Pride are making far more gate than UFC and the fighters are earning far more than UFC as well.

If sanctioning from the athletic and boxing commissions was so great an achievement, wtf is happening to the sport? Clearly, Dana and Zuffa aren't able to see the big picture.

Yeah you can argue that the TUF is a potential entry into the mainstream but if so, why pick SPIKE TV? FOrmally The National Network formally The NAshville Network(Yeehaw). It reeks of sideshow. MMA deserves better.
Yes, and putting Giant Silva on a card could in no way be considered a sideshow move.
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